ANY WIN over Floyd Mayweather Jr., at THIS point... is ONLY a GOOD win.. not GREAT.

[THE REED]

I've even said it in the past, a well conditioned/ healthy Toney could possibly beat B-Hop or RJJ and I ain't even a Toney fan, dude had crazy skillz/ his defense/ counter punching ability was amazing...only problem was that Toney was a very inconsistent fighter/ always blowing up and **** and looking real good in one fight and bad in another

Ive seen great fighters get in the ring with another great fighter and not look so invincible anymore.

[El Dominicano]

Ive seen great fighters get in the ring with another great fighter and not look so invincible anymore.

Alot of people wont agree, not to start anything but Toney at his best would beat RJJ but don't take what I'm saying into consideration, Roy beat him and thats that

[The Gambler1981]

If ANYBODY has ANY kind of financial education WHATSOEVER... you would know not to believe about Floyds mouth telling everyone he hasnt lost a dime in the recession.

Celebrities, Artists, Entrepreneus, Business Owners, Investors, Wall Street....

They have ALL lost money, if you owned real estate investments you most likely lost out, stocks as well....

If you have Mutual Funds or CDs then you are locked in and will not lose your money, but the interest you make isnt astronomical, especially for short term gains...

Floyd IS, and WILL, outspend what he has coming in... he is UNDOUBTEDLY spending more money then he is making, and Im willing to say at a RAPID pace.... He will be back, he will fight again... and it WILL be, because he needs money..

Maybe not NEED in the sense that he cant buy dinner... he will always have money... but when you have 60 million, and you start getting down to 10 and 8 million... It isnt enough money to support the lifestyle that YOU (Floyd) live anymore...

Either you adjust your lifestyle accordingly... or you fight again and make that money back.

So I ask you... is Floyd going to tune back his lifestyle in 5 years?

You are right he had to lose money. He owns a house in Vegas that **** is worth half as much, he got a house in Florida (I think he got this as prices started to go down, but has probably gone down even more). Any stocks, or mutual funds are hit up most likely (they would still have some value though). His jet and boat have lost value because demand for such items is low (although when demand goes back up and no one has made a big boat or privete jets for years they will probably have good value).

The only thing that was a good investment was his ***elry, gold and gems stones have gone up in value by a large margin.

He had a lot of cash to start off with so he could take some pretty heavy loses. If he has enough money so that he does not have to sell anything (or everything) he might be ok. Forced selling would mean he gets pennies on the dollar compared to what he paid, he would still have some money but nothing like he had (10-20% tops).

I am not even taking into account the money that he has basically just flushed down the toilet, which is probably a large sum.

[THE REED]

Alot of people wont agree, not to start anything but Toney at his best would beat RJJ but don't take what I'm saying into consideration, Roy beat him and thats that

Oh don't worry, I am certainly not.

[THE REED]

You are right he had to lose money. He owns a house in Vegas that **** is worth half as much, he got a house in Florida (I think he got this as prices started to go down, but has probably gone down even more). Any stocks, or mutual funds are hit up most likely (they would still have some value though). His jet and boat have lost value because demand for such items is low (although when demand goes back up and no one has made a big boat or privete jets for years they will probably have good value).

The only thing that was a good investment was his ***elry, gold and gems stones have gone up in value by a large margin.

He had a lot of cash to start off with so he could take some pretty heavy loses. If he has enough money so that he does not have to sell anything (or everything) he might be ok. Forced selling would mean he gets pennies on the dollar compared to what he paid, he would still have some money but nothing like he had (10-20% tops).

I am not even taking into account the money that he has basically just flushed down the toilet, which is probably a large sum.

Houses in vegas AND florida.... yeah... he aint gettin **** for those.

[THE REED]

You heard it here first.

[Pullcounter]

He ain't gonna fight anybody anyway.

yeah, floyd aint coming back.

in any case, they are only chasing floyd because of money... they dont really care if its a "good" or "great" win.

[Tuggers1986]

Floyd who???

[deevel79]

I agree. Floyd is now considered a retired/part-time fighter. No fighter will get full credit for beating him at this stage.

[Roger Mellie]

Well it' FACTUAL that Floyd has 2 years + of inactivity...

MAYBE this will stop the people who hate on floyd to STOP chasing Floyd for a fight with their favorite fighter.. because, you wouldnt gain what you WANTED out of it.

There would ALWAYS be that asterisk... you didn't beat a prime active Floyd...

I know what your getting at,likewise,if Hagler had beaten leonard there would have been a big fat asterisk against that,which is straight wrong IMO.Roy's win over Toney was and will always be a great win in my eyes,because Toney knew damn well who he was fighting,and we are supposed to believe that he didnt have the motivation to keep his weight down or was injured or any other lame excuse.With so much at stake postponing if necessary would have been an option.I recall that in the year or so leading up to that fight there was no love lost between the fighters.So balls to it.A great win it was.And if anyone could beat Floyd should he come out of retirement,then a great win that would be....unless Floyd happens to show up looking like Toney.