Mayweather Wants $20 Million For Pacquiao, Mosley Bouts

[The Gambler1981]

I think you have a point, but it realy had more to do with Hatton and Delahoya than Floyd. Sure the public wanted to see PBF get beat due to his mouth running, etc... but the mainstream fan was involved because Oscar and Hatton were. The proof was in the facts. Oscar has always sold well worldwide. Hatton has always sold well in the UK and has started to in the US. Hatton brought more buys in Europe (1.4 mil in a much smaller continent) than Floyd did in the US (850-950k). That alone shows which fighter comanded the revenue's. I agree that Floyd is truly an elite and great fighter, he just doesn't deserve 20 million a fight. Nowhere near that even. He brings skill but not the huge fanbase he thinks he does. He never sold well prior to Hatton and Delahoya and the proof is there for the gander.

Well, your lucky I cam back to this thread lol, I never really intended to look at this thread again. Hatton is a bigger star in England then Floyd is in the US, I never said otherwise, my points about the Hatton fight is that Hatton is not some huge PPV star in the US so 850-900k is damn impressive, anything over 500k to me is a very very good ppv (300k+ is pretty good). All Floyd's fights made money on PPV, so they were all successful to some degree. Bringing up the past really does nottalk about the situation in the present, things change. Floyd is one of the biggest names in boxing, even the most casual of fan knows the name and has an opinion on him (in the US is what I am talking about).

He did big business in the last 2 fights he was in, and before that he was doing ok business, to come out of retirement he should not really take a paycut atleast he should be looking to try to max out the money he will make. My whole point was that he was not wrong for asking for 20 million, because you do not know if you do not try. By the same token Golden Boy can think Floyd is worth whatever they think he is worth. Make Floyd an offer he can't refuse he will come back, I do not know what he will agree too but for the right price I am pretty sure he will fight again.


Have you ever hear the line that goes like " A man asks a woman if she will sleep with him for $100, she says no. He says what about $1,000, she just as quickly says no. He says what about $10,000, she hesitently says no. So then he says what about $1 million, she quickly says yes. Then the man asks whould you sleep with me for $20,000, the woman asks did you not already ask me to sleep with you for a million why would I do it for $20,000. Since we have already determined that you are a whore, now we are negotiating on a price"

[Chase8400]

It's true but when Oscar De La Hoya fought Steve Forbes them #'s weren't booming like that? Or when Hatton fought Pauli Malignaggi, them #'s weren't booming like that? These are Floyd's exact words:

"I make a fight like this. I'm the one selling this fight," Mayweather said. "I need a good dance partner, he needs a good dance partner."


It takes TWO to sell a MEGA fight & without Mayweather fighting Oscar or Hatton then it would not have done them #'s like that.

I am going to give you partial credit here. Yes, it takes two elite parties to make a 'superfight', no doubt about that. But what I am eluding to is that those fights sold better due to Hatton and Oscar more so than Mayweather. That is not to say that 'Money May' didn't bring in some viewers himself. Overall however, I think think the boxing public was more interested in those fights because the winner was not so much of a foregone conclusion as it was in the Oscar-Forbes & Hatton-Paulie fights. Those numbers were there to make with good competition as they were when people thought Oscar could beat Pacquiao. My prediction is that Hatton-Pacquiao will be really close to that fight worldwide, if not a little higher. You must know that Floyd fought Oscar and Ricky because they brought in the benjamins, right? If you don't know, now ya know.

[rebmogul]

Don't expect a fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. and Manny Pacquiao in the near future. Recently Richard Schaefer of Golden Boy Promotions had reached out to Mayweather's advisor, Al Haymon, and tried to put together a deal for a bout between Mayweather and Shane Mosley. Schaefer made an offer of $8 million dollars. Mayweather would respond with an extreme counter - a request for a guarantee of $20 million dollars. [details]

FMJ priced himself out of this fight due to fear of Shane kicking his ass sideways....

[GRUSTLER]

Proof that Floyd Mayweather Jr wanted to fight EVERYONE.

The reason Mayweather opted for the buyout rather than waiting for the May 6 result was because the contract had a limited window for the buyout, one that expired before the De La Hoya fight. However, Arum said he would have extended the window if Mayweather had asked. What Arum wouldn't do, he said, was raise the guarantees for other fights outlined in the contract.

Arum said while Mayweather would have taken the $8 million to fight Margarito, he asked for a $10 million guarantee to fight opponents such as Miguel Cotto and Ricky Hatton, when Arum was only willing to guarantee $7 million.

Arum said Mayweather also asked for $20 million to fight De La Hoya, a fight Arum said he wasn't interested in participating in.

"That's not in the cards," Arum said. "He wants $20 million for the De La Hoya fight? It's not there. Sometimes, my man, you gotta know when to hold 'em and when to fold 'em. We'll talk about things down the road."

Ellerbe said Mayweather opted for the buyout so he could be "more in control of when and who he fights next. It's as simple as that. There is nothing bad between Floyd and Bob."

Arum agreed that the split with Mayweather was not on bad terms like their brief breakup last year. In fact, Arum said, "We intend to be back together. Everything with this was honorable and good. I had offered him numbers [for a multi-fight contract extension] that were livable. His expectations are in the stratosphere. He was entitled to buy me out, and he did. We decided this was the best way to handle it. He is a free agent. We have agreed to work with each other [in the future]."

The split frees Mayweather to make a potential deal with De La Hoya without Arum as part of the promotion. His involvement would have made making a deal almost impossible: The head of Top Rank has openly feuded with De La Hoya, his former superstar, and their companies rarely do business together as a result.

Arum said he was simply not interested in participating in a De La Hoya-Mayweather fight, but not because of his distaste for De La Hoya.

"I don't want to, because if I did that fight, I would be working for such a small percentage, it's not worth it," he said.


http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2420382

[SkillspayBills]

The most he could get is 10-15 mill. 20 mill is ****ing ridiculous.

[GRUSTLER]

I am going to give you partial credit here. Yes, it takes two elite parties to make a 'superfight', no doubt about that. But what I am eluding to is that those fights sold better due to Hatton and Oscar more so than Mayweather. That is not to say that 'Money May' didn't bring in some viewers himself. Overall however, I think think the boxing public was more interested in those fights because the winner was not so much of a foregone conclusion as it was in the Oscar-Forbes & Hatton-Paulie fights. Those numbers were there to make with good competition as they were when people thought Oscar could beat Pacquiao. My prediction is that Hatton-Pacquiao will be really close to that fight worldwide, if not a little higher. You must know that Floyd fought Oscar and Ricky because they brought in the benjamins, right? If you don't know, now ya know.

Listen man, you went back to what I previously posted. It doesn't matter because without Mayweather in the opposite corner Hatton & De La Hoya would not have done #'s like that. People tuned in to see both fighters go at it, what more don't you understand? Floyd Mayweather Jr needed them and they needed him to make them fights successful. The same with Manny/Oscar & Hatton/Manny. Without TWO superstars then there is NO mega fight Bottom line. If Floyd wasn't a BIG name then them #'s would not have been what they were. Now you know & by the way did you see all the FACTS, I've been posting up about PBF? Bet you didn't know any of that.

[GRUSTLER]

Can you read?

FMJ priced himself out of this fight due to fear of Shane kicking his ass sideways....

Mosley wanted to go back down to the welterweight division he once dominated after the first fight, but the rematch kept him at junior middleweight (Fernando Vargas). Now, he intends to go back to 147 pounds.

Waiting for him could be a mega fight against pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather Jr. Mayweather would like the fight in November, but Mosley said he doesn't even plan to resume training until November.

"You know Antonio Margarito is out there waiting to fight Floyd," said Mosley, who earned about $4 million plus a percentage of pay-per-view profits. "Those guys should fight each other and we can fight next year. The only thing I know is my tooth is a little lose and I might have to go to the dentist."



Link to whole article:http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/box...ory?id=2498164

[Chase8400]

Listen man, you went back to what I previously posted. It doesn't matter because without Mayweather in the opposite corner Hatton & De La Hoya would not have done #'s like that. People tuned in to see both fighters go at it, what more don't you understand? Floyd Mayweather Jr needed them and they needed him to make them fights successful. The same with Manny/Oscar & Hatton/Manny. Without TWO superstars then there is NO mega fight Bottom line. If Floyd wasn't a BIG name then them #'s would not have been what they were. Now you know & by the way did you see all the FACTS, I've been posting up about PBF? Bet you didn't know any of that.

It appears to me that you are the one who just don't get it. I couldn't care less about Mayweather ducking anyone. Your post about Arum means nothing in this thread. Move it elsewhere.

On our topic: I will break this down as simple as I can for you to be able to comprehend.

Hatton sells tickets and gets high PPV numbers without Mayweather.
Oscar sells tickets and gets high PPV numbers without Mayweather.
While:
Floyd doesn't sell well at all without them. It is fact. He did crap numbers with all of his high profile fights aside from those two. Gatti=flop. Judah=flop. Baldomir=flop.
That's the difference. Together, yes they make spectacular fights but my point that Hatton and Oscar still sell fights with any old fighter while Floyd cannot sell with decently known guys such as Gatti and Judah.

Hope ya get it now and I'm not trying to be a **** even though I got the feeling I've hurt your feelings a little.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

It appears to me that you are the one who just don't get it. I couldn't care less about Mayweather ducking anyone. Your post about Arum means nothing in this thread. Move it elsewhere.

On our topic: I will break this down as simple as I can for you to be able to comprehend.

Hatton sells tickets and gets high PPV numbers without Mayweather.
Oscar sells tickets and gets high PPV numbers without Mayweather.
While:
Floyd doesn't sell well at all without them. It is fact. He did crap numbers with all of his high profile fights aside from those two. Gatti=flop. Judah=flop. Baldomir=flop.
That's the difference. Together, yes they make spectacular fights but my point that Hatton and Oscar still sell fights with any old fighter while Floyd cannot sell with decently known guys such as Gatti and Judah.

Hope ya get it now and I'm not trying to be a **** even though I got the feeling I've hurt your feelings a little.

In your mind pbf can't do big numbers without a big name! But, the other two guys u named a superstars by themselves? Why didn't oscar/forbes or hatton/malignaggi go PPV? Or why did oscar/pacq do half of what pbf/oscar did? Economy will probably be your answer, if so then just ignore this reply! No need for recycled rhetoric that doesn't hold water!

[F l i c k e r]

Mayweather will end up being the ticket seller. By attaching his name to the fight card, the event will sell. So 20 mil gauranteed is acceptable if you want to attach his name to a card. I see that possible for a fight with Pacman. Because Pacquiao isn't gonna be the main reason why tickets will be sold. Its gonna be the name that appears before his, "Mayweather."

A fight with Sugar Shane isn't gonna get Mayweather 20 mil gauranteed. Mosley isn't gonna have it. period.