Mayweather Wants $20 Million For Pacquiao, Mosley Bouts

[JAB5239]

This is about Floyd Mayweather not other fighters. All main event fighters get paid pretty well though in comparision to revenue (it depends on who is the star). I disagree as far as boxers though Mayweather is amongst the most well known in the United States. In Detroit he is very well known, Floyd is from Michigan though so that may give him a little more popularity here.

Floyd is well known amongst boxing fans in the US. Boxing unfotunatley is not a major sport anymore.

And Im sorry to tell you, but not all main event fighters get paid a lot. Most of them get paid **** to be honest with you and hold second jobs to pay the bills. The few who are lucky enough to headline an HBO or Showtime card bare few and far between, and the are even less PPV engagements that are truly worthwhile. I've been privvy to know a few main eventers and at least one who was a headline on PPV. Not everybody is an Oscar, Floyd or Hatton. Not even close.

[The Gambler1981]

Floyd is well known amongst boxing fans in the US. Boxing unfotunatley is not a major sport anymore.

And Im sorry to tell you, but not all main event fighters get paid a lot. Most of them get paid **** to be honest with you and hold second jobs to pay the bills. The few who are lucky enough to headline an HBO or Showtime card bare few and far between, and the are even less PPV engagements that are truly worthwhile. I've been privvy to know a few main eventers and at least one who was a headline on PPV. Not everybody is an Oscar, Floyd or Hatton. Not even close.

Dude, I am not talking about local cards and even then because they have such a small revenue they still make a decent % in comparison. I am talking about Floyd Mayweather, he has nothing in common with a small time main eventer at this point, so why compare them. Not every fighter makes it to the bigtime, so when you do like Floyd has done, you demand the world if you can (this has been my point all along btw), if no one steps up to his demands and he does not need the money, why settle for less unless you need the cash. Most other fighters would kill to get offered 10% of what gets offered to Floyd, but they are not Floyd so why bring them into this conversation.

In baseball a lucky few make it to the major leagues, while countless more chase their dreams getting paid a pittence in the minors. I would not compare some dude in the minors to Manny Ramirez.

Listen Floyd made HBO a bunch of cash on PPV, so they hold him in a very high regard (most likely), they do not have very many PPV cash cows left so it would make sence to get him back into the mix. Maybe he does not sell big when he comes back (I doubt it, although if he stays away to long it will have a very negative effect on his market appeal), but I am sure that HBO would love to find out.

[JAB5239]

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QUOTE=The Gambler1981;4826004]Dude, I am not talking about local cards and even then because they have such a small revenue they still make a decent % in comparison. I am talking about Floyd Mayweather, he has nothing in common with a small time main eventer at this point, so why compare them. Not every fighter makes it to the bigtime, so when you do like Floyd has done, you demand the world if you can (this has been my point all along btw), if no one steps up to his demands and he does not need the money, why settle for less unless you need the cash. Most other fighters would kill to get offered 10% of what gets offered to Floyd, but they are not Floyd so why bring them into this conversation.

In baseball a lucky few make it to the major leagues, while countless more chase their dreams getting paid a pittence in the minors. I would not compare some dude in the minors to Manny Ramirez.

I was talking of at least one world champion a a few fighters who were top ten.. Main eventers if you will.

Listen Floyd made HBO a bunch of cash on PPV, so they hold him in a very high regard (most likely), they do not have very many PPV cash cows left so it would make sence to get him back into the mix. Maybe he does not sell big when he comes back (I doubt it, although if he stays away to long it will have a very negative effect on his market appeal), but I am sure that HBO would love to find out.

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Then my question remain......Why aren't Arum, GBP or HBO chomping at the bit to get him back?

[-MAKAVELLI-]

This is about Floyd Mayweather not other fighters. All main event fighters get paid pretty well though in comparision to revenue (it depends on who is the star). I disagree as far as boxers though Mayweather is amongst the most well known in the United States. In Detroit he is very well known, Floyd is from Michigan though so that may give him a little more popularity here.

so why is it then that, prior to Hatton, DLH and Gatti that he couldnt get more than 6,000 people in an ARENA IN MICHIGAN to watch him fight N'Dou...a title fight? drawing power?


he's come a long way since but not far enough for those demands

[JAB5239]

so why is it then that, prior to Hatton, DLH and Gatti that he couldnt get more than 6,000 people in an ARENA IN MICHIGAN to watch him fight N'Dou...a title fight? drawing power?


he's come a long way since but not far enough for those demands

THATS what Im talking about!!!

[The Gambler1981]

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I was talking of at least one world champion a a few fighters who were top ten.. Main eventers if you will.

Then my question remain......Why aren't Arum, GBP or HBO chomping at the bit to get him back?[/QUOTE]

I have met my fair share of boxers also, and I would venture a guess that if they were in Floyd's position they would do similar things. Some might have fought longer, or fought more but it was a job that they wanted to get paid well doing and not end up braindead (and broke)

Bob Arum would not take that kind of risk on a person he hates, I believe they also have some pending litigation, that probably hurts their chances of working together. Bob Arum also said Floyd could not make 10 million against Hatton nor 15 against Oscar, was he right about that also?

As for Golden Boy, they asked him to fight Mosley so it seems like they wanted him back. They just could not agree on a price, Golden Boy is entitled to their opinion on a fights worth but Floyd is entitled to his also.

I am pretty confident HBO would love to have him back in the mix, I think they would aid anyone in making a huge fight with Mayweather occur.

The only way to get him in the ring is to make him an offer he can not refuse, if he needs money later on I am pretty sure his demands will be different, but it is his right to demand whatever he sees fit.

[The Gambler1981]

so why is it then that, prior to Hatton, DLH and Gatti that he couldnt get more than 6,000 people in an ARENA IN MICHIGAN to watch him fight N'Dou...a title fight? drawing power?


he's come a long way since but not far enough for those demands

I was at that fight my man. That was not a huge venue and Floyd is much bigger now. Back then you are right he was making millions when he had no right making that much. From the Gatti fight on he pretty much got paid his worth (with the notable exception of Mitchell, but that was on regular HBO). Also 6,000 for a boxing contest with one unknown fighter is not that bad.

850k with Hatton was a very impressive number as was the 2.4 million with Oscar. These were 2 huge fights, but it always takes 2 big time fighters to make a mega fight. The Judah fight was like 385k and that was not a heavily promoted HBO PPV so that is an impressive number as well.

Floyd brings a lot of buys with him (fans and people who want to see him get beaten up).

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Also 6,000 for a boxing contest with one unknown fighter is not that bad.

my man, Oscam can eat a ham sandwich on an East LA sidewalk and draw 10 thousand people...THAT is what warrants a $20mil payday

[-Boxzilla-]

50 + pgs ... not bad

[The Gambler1981]

my man, Oscam can eat a ham sandwich on an East LA sidewalk and draw 10 thousand people...THAT is what warrants a $20mil payday

That was long time ago, Floyd did not start getting really bug until the Gatti fight which was almsot 2 years after (well a little more then a year and a half).

Floyd is a big star now, he sells PPV much better then he sells seats in an arena. The stars do turn out to see him fight though, that is another importent aspect.

Say whatever you will though at this moment in time he is one of the biggest names in boxing and it could be argued the biggest if Oscar is gone (talking just USA).

His demands are not that out of line, I think should Pacman beat Hatton Pacman Floyd would do well over a million buys which would be like 75-80 in total revenue (atleast). Floyd and Pacman would have like 60 million to split up (maybe a little less when you take out expenses).

For Mosley I think that fight could do atleast as good as Mayweather-Hatton (on PPV). 850k would be like something in the range of 60 million in total revenue. I would say 40 million to split up and Floyd would be getting the larger cut for sure (taking out expenses again would lessen it). Maybe it would do less then Mayweather-Hatton but really I see no reason why it could not do as good.


I do not see either of these scenarios as being way out there either.