Mayweather Wants $20 Million For Pacquiao, Mosley Bouts

[-MAKAVELLI-]

But floyd won....explain why Pacman lost to a Morales who wasn't at his best?

you want the laundry list from pacland or do you want a couple of the ones i deemed as semi-legit?

[cortdawg25]

But floyd won....explain why Pacman lost to a Morales who wasn't at his best?

how does the p4p best (which u called pacman) lose to a fighter who isn't at his best? again pacman over Mayweather for P4P...WTF!!!

[The Gambler1981]

Ok.

No way Corrales could have been at his best knowing he was facing jail time for domestic assault.
(he had not been sentenced yet, he was facing jail time but it was unknown how much)

Hernandez was in the ast fiht of a 14 year career and never fought again. Does that really soud like he was at his best?
(Never lost at 130 pounds to anyone other then Floyd)

Oscar was a part time fighter.
(not a terrible version of Oscar but not the best)

Hatton had already proven he wasn't going to be a force at 147 when he almost lost to Collazo. Hec also said right after that fight that he didn't belong fighting at that weight.
(Not an excuse considering that Floyd started at 130)

Judah? Come on now....does anybody here in their right mind think Zab was at his best coming off a loss to Baldomir?
(Zab fought much better in the Mayweather fight then the Baldomor fight, Zab in the Baldomir fight went in ther to knock out Baldomir which helped Baldomir win)

Like I said, its easy to manipulate any fighters record if you really want to. I could just as easily make these guys look like world beaters too.

Fixed it for you

[cortdawg25]

Whats there to explain? Manny lost his first fight to atill prime Morale who was still a top ranked p4p fighter at the time. Am I wrong?

yes ur wrong, he was not still prime...still capable, but not prime. that pacman lost disclaim his right and your opinion thathe was best in this era

[cortdawg25]

you want the laundry list from pacland or do you want a couple of the ones i deemed as semi-legit?

give em both! son

[JAB5239]

wow u blew me away ... those and only those reasons are why floyd won those fights ... quickly i gotta change my avatar .....

No these aren't the only reasons Floyd won. The guy is great. Im just showing how simple it is to manipulate any fighters record if you decide to look at it a certain way.

[Piper the Great]

**** it pay the man

[JAB5239]

yes ur wrong, he was not still prime...still capable, but not prime. that pacman lost disclaim his right and your opinion thathe was best in this era

He was also at that point p4p better than anybody Floyd has fought.

[El Chicano]

The only person capable of getting him a 20 million dollar guarantee is Oscar De La Hoya, even with Oscar's horrible performance against Manny. Sad but true.

[Dave Rado]

whether Baldomir was limited or not means nothing

Of course it means something, if you beat a limited champion and then, later on, far better fighters move into the division or move from being prospects to serious contenders - you can't say that beating those superior fighters would prove nothing. Titles aren't everything, beating the best possible competition means far more, IMO.

Baldomir is no longer ranked because he left the division and moved up to fight Forrest at 154.

He isn't ranked at any weight any more.

Judah was the undisputed champ of that division, how can u knock that and belittle it for what it is.

I'm not knocking it at all, just pointing out that there a several much better fighters in that division now - and were, even when he retired.

I'm just saying it makes no sense to say "what more is there to achieve" when there are Welterweights of that quality around now, and when he hasn't yet beaten a Welterweight of that quality. Judah was the undisputed champion, and beating him was a great win, but Judah was not as good as any of the top Welters are now.