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Felix Trinidad Wants Kelly Pavlik Fight at 165-Pounds

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  • Originally posted by mazukamba2904 View Post
    why you say that, tell me in what fight he was so hurt that you can say that about Tito, what the Bhop fight? come on man Tito was hurt but not the way of Vargas or Mayorga and with Winky and Roy he was outbox thats it

    No, your misunderstanding me. What I mean is Tito keeps coming back for more when there's really nothing left in the tank. Why did everybody fight Mayorga??? For a show fight. Almost Anybody can beat Mayorga now. Vargas too- He tried fighting really good fighters after his losses and he just couldn't cut it anymore. Trinidad has nothing left, just heart. What if he fights Pavlik and Pavlik wins (or even makes him look silly like Old Roy Jones did). Then Trinidad will become a show fighter. He's going to tap dance for the public boxers. Remember he's 1-4 against the last five legitimate good boxers. I don't think anyone wants to see a legend make it 1-5.

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    • Tito should get a expert conditioning coach then maybe he squeezes two more fights tops. But like rjj he's risking his legacy except Tito hasn't really gotten abused yet so I can see the argument to proceed. Maybe Pavlik is best to be the one who closes the book or gives Tito a decent finale or give Glen Johnson a payday.

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      • Originally posted by aztecadq View Post
        No, your misunderstanding me. What I mean is Tito keeps coming back for more when there's really nothing left in the tank. Why did everybody fight Mayorga??? For a show fight. Almost Anybody can beat Mayorga now. Vargas too- He tried fighting really good fighters after his losses and he just couldn't cut it anymore. Trinidad has nothing left, just heart. What if he fights Pavlik and Pavlik wins (or even makes him look silly like Old Roy Jones did). Then Trinidad will become a show fighter. He's going to tap dance for the public boxers. Remember he's 1-4 against the last five legitimate good boxers. I don't think anyone wants to see a legend make it 1-5.

        He have only 3 Loses.

        and those three guys have all somethings in common. Bigger guys, with good defense and low workrate.

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        • Originally posted by o z i r View Post
          the only good thing about this fight would be Pavlik being exposed to the general public. You know a **** LOAD of people would tune in to watch Tito.
          thats a hell of a better deal then fighting John Duddy. I think it would be a good fight for Pavlik. Tito is no Bernard Hopkins and at 165 Pavlik is better then he is at 170. If I was Pav i would take it and as for Trinidad, if he doing it just for the money then its probable the best deal for him as well. But if Titos doing this for a win, which i highly doubt, then he'll loo for someone else to fight. But IMHO Tito Trinidad just needs to retire.

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          • trinidad should fight butterbean at 250lbs.

            "the battle of the bulges".

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            • About a year ago tito couldn't make 168. But, now he wants to fight at 165! Pavlik would be to much for him!

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              • I don't like this fight but apparently ppl has interest, 22 pages not even a day. Wonder what Pavlik has to say about it, I mean he's a game fighter, anyone heard anything from Pavlik's?

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                • What they should do is team up and see if Hopkins is interested in a handicap match.

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                  • i think tito should stay retire. he did a lot of money and he's very healthy. he should stay out

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                    • There are alot of haters out there that are more afraid of Tito winning a fight against Pavlick and being relevant again. The same people are trying to convince everyone that Tito is garbage, yet they don't want him to face Pavlick because....?

                      A pay day? Please, Tito has 20 paydays hihger than anything Pavlick has seen yet. Pavlick has more to gain than Tito when it comes to money. Tito has been on PPV since he fought Vargas. Every fight he has fought has been on pay per view since then. Thats like 12 fights people. The so relevant Pavlick has 2 or 3 and his fight against Bernard couldn't even make pay per view. Stop with all the pay day stuff, Tito lives on PPV, if you didn't know now you do.

                      To win? Of course he's coming to win, and the only fight that is arguably better than this is Abraham vs Pavlick. All the other 160lb guys are garbage.

                      Lets settle it. To the haters and the Lovers, the only way to really settle Titos relevancy is to let him and Pavlick fight. Pav got dominated worse by a 44 year old Bernard, Than Tito did by a 39 year old Roy, (Both are way past there primes, Yes Roy has fallen harder, but Roy was so much better than Bernard was.) Saying Tito doesn't deserve this fight is ******. Tito would still be undefeated had he not fought Winky, Bernard, or Roy. Loosing to those guys doesn't indicate you can't beat Pavlick.

                      I Pavlick looses to all those guys today. Roys fight with Joe was much more competative than Pavlicks fight with Bernard. Roy knocked Joe down. Pav got lit for 12, beaten bloody.

                      If Tito fought bums like everyone else hed be the #1 guy pfp right now, but because he went to higher weight classes and fought guys that were bigger and stronger than himself you punish him for it and say hes no good.

                      I like Shane gets his props but he barely got by Myorga. Do you remeber what Tito does to guys like Myorga. Kills them. If Tito was fighting guys like Myorga, Margarito, and Rubio, instead of Roy, Bernard, and Winky then I guess hed be a viable apponent and worthy fo a fight with Pavlick, cause he would have knocked all three out in 8 rounds or less.

                      But instead he manned up and fought the very best that were bigger than him and lost, and now he's not worthy to get in the ring with someone who got beat worse by bernard five years later. Please. If you are completely logical and do not ignore the fact that Tito is loosing to compatition that is so much higher than what Pavlick, and Abraham and the rest of these 160lb guys are fighting, you would see that Tito deserves to be in the ring with anyone at 160. His record 43-3 with losses to 3 hall of famers Winky, Bernard, and Roy should get you any fight you want.

                      I mean who at 160 has a better resume. Lets just settle this ish in the ring and if Tito beats Kelly, than eveyone who was talking ish needs to step up and say they were wrong about Tito or look like an b.

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