whys Hopkins better then Jones ????

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  • Pullcounter
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    #11
    Originally posted by White Hope
    back when they fought 1993 was a long time ago, then at 1 point they had on and off talks for a mega fight which was always talked about, then roy moved up to heavy beat up ruiz, then roy lost to tarver, Hopkins killed tarver. But honestly if they laced them Up today hopkins would bust up roy jones worse then calzaghe did, I think Hopkins would KO roy without a doubt. and hes 43 and hes still better then jones jr.
    all time, it depends on your preference...

    today hopkins would KO rjj though.

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    • Testdead
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      #12
      Originally posted by danc1984
      I don't agree with this. You could mount an argument for Bernard managing to win a decision over Roy in their respective primes (which I don't think he would have) but no way in hell is Bernard knocking him out. Not only was Roy's chin substantially better in his prime but his movement and reflexes were such that he barely ever got it and BHop never possessed that one punch power that would have been necessary to stop Roy.

      I think a prime on prime matchup between the two would have gone in a pretty similar direction to the way their actual fight went. A cagey affair with Roy's superior athleticism winning the day for him. Now? I think BHop either wins and easy decision over or stops Roy. Jones is just shot.


      Roy beat bums thats why he looked good.

      Hopkins, Calzaghe own him p4p.

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      • thebowtod
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        #13
        Jones beat him with one hand, so no

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        • larryx
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          #14
          In 1993 when they fought it was a close fight..both improved over time..but i think hopkins had to improve more..he is much better fundamentally and is alot smarter..i belive from 2000-present hopkins wins hands down

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            #15
            Originally posted by Testdead
            Prime 4 prime Hopkins KO`s Roy.

            Roy spent hid prime fighting bums, Hopkind fought the best (Oscar, Tito dont count)

            1996-2009 Jones vs Hopkins?!?!? Jones loses big!

            why does oscar count and trinidad doesn't?

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            • larryx
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              #16
              Originally posted by Rocky=Ward
              Jones beat him with one hand, so no
              THat a terrible lie..actually watch the fight and stop repeating what others say

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              • larryx
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                #17
                Originally posted by cassiusthegreat
                why does oscar count and trinidad doesn't?
                tito counts more than oscar if you ask me

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                • Dan...
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by larryx
                  THat a terrible lie..actually watch the fight and stop repeating what others say
                  It actually isn't that terrible a lie. Jones may not have been completely one-handed but he was certainly badly troubled throughout the fight and relying heavily on his left.

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                  • Dan...
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Testdead
                    Roy beat bums thats why he looked good.

                    Hopkins, Calzaghe own him p4p.
                    LOL, ok bro.

                    You kind of remind me of the anti-Daggum.

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                    • cassiusthegreat
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by S.G.
                      I love that Hopkins rose to the top on smarts and hard-learned technique as opposed to Jones who genetically had his otherworldly athleticism handed to him on a plate

                      watch the roy jones beyond the glory.I just watched it last night on youtube.his athleticism and relexes were the result of hard training as a boy

                      his father would make him spar guys with one hand tied behind his back


                      That kind of freakish athleticism isn't just some god given talent.Nothing is

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