Paul Williams will beat Bernard Hopkins!!!!....

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  • Pugilistic™
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    #111
    Originally posted by reedickyaluss
    I know... I think people were starting to get the wrong idea of why I think Paul would win... I know Bernard is a better boxer, hes slicker, better defense, better counter puncher... better ALL OF THAT...

    and in one small sentence... I just dont think at this age, he could keep up for 12 rounds... thats basically it...

    he has to get OLD SOMETIME!

    K im done.
    I agree.

    Williams can only beat Hopkins if Hopkins age finally catches up with him

    one question : who is Berto fighting next ?

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    • Pullcounter
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      #112
      Originally posted by Precision
      yes Joe Calzaghe who is one hell of a fighter and you forgot Tarver who was the number 1 light heavyweight when Hopkins schooled his ass.

      Even if your opinion on the Joe fight was that joe won a close but clear fight it doesn't take away from the fact that it was a very close competitive bout that many people other had going either way.

      If Hopkins can have a close fight with Joe Calzaghe then he can certainly beat Williams.

      I like Williams but he is not in Joe's league. Hopkins would prove this.
      hopkins shouldn't fight pwill though because he will lose.

      hopkins doesn't throw enough punches and his output will be non-existant once pwill is throwing 1000 a round.

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        #113
        Originally posted by Pullcounter
        hopkins shouldn't fight pwill though because he will lose.

        hopkins doesn't throw enough punches and his output will be non-existant once pwill is throwing 1000 a round.
        A 1000 A ROUND !!!! i don't think so. You mean about a 100 a round.

        He wouldn't average that against Hopkins anyway.

        This is basically how i see the fight.

        Hopkins makes Williams come forward, Hits him with well timed counters and ties Williams up. Hopkins can do that all day even at this stage.

        So basically Hopkins wins the fight because of :
        • lateral movement
        • Better inside game
        • Counter punching
        • Superior ring smarts

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          #114
          Originally posted by Precision
          I agree.

          Williams can only beat Hopkins if Hopkins age finally catches up with him

          one question : who is Berto fighting next ?
          Juan Urango, May 30th.

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            #115
            Originally posted by reedickyaluss
            Juan Urango, May 30th.
            Berto should win that pretty easy.

            Urango could possibly test Berto's chin but i doubt it. he's too slow.

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              #116
              Berto stops him IMO

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                #117
                Originally posted by Precision
                A 1000 A ROUND !!!! i don't think so. You mean about a 100 a round.

                He wouldn't average that against Hopkins anyway.
                yes he would... pwill throws punches just to throw them... they don't even have to connect put the volume will throw hops off his game.

                This is basically how i see the fight.

                Hopkins makes Williams come forward,
                hopkins won't make pwill come forward, that's what pwill likes to do.

                Hits him with well timed counters
                hopkins will land a counters but that won't discourage pwill.

                and ties Williams up.
                pwill can fight rough as well, just rewatch the wright fight

                Hopkins can do that all day even at this stage.
                yeah, but pwill's activity will throw hopkins off

                So basically Hopkins wins the fight because of :
                • lateral movement
                • Better inside game
                • Counter punching
                • Superior ring smarts
                obviously hopkins is a superior technician to pwill, but pwill's volume punching and hopkins' age will lose him the fight.

                hopkins stamina can't keep up with pwill

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Pullcounter
                  yes he would... pwill throws punches just to throw them... they don't even have to connect put the volume will throw hops off his game.


                  hopkins won't make pwill come forward, that's what pwill likes to do.


                  hopkins will land a counters but that won't discourage pwill.


                  pwill can fight rough as well, just rewatch the wright fight


                  yeah, but pwill's activity will throw hopkins off


                  obviously hopkins is a superior technician to pwill, but pwill's volume punching and hopkins' age will lose him the fight.

                  hopkins stamina can't keep up with pwill
                  I've already had this discussion with Reed.

                  We will just have to agree to disagree or we will be here all day.

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                  • comanick
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                    #119
                    I think williams loses because honestly I don t know/think he can take a flush hard right hand from hopkins. Sorry but i have seen hopkins hurt bigger men with that punch even at an advanced age. I dont see williams taking many of those before he hits the canvas.

                    Sidenote- people keep talking about the fight being made at 168. sorry but thats not happening. this fight will be at 170 or above. Why? williams has no bargaining power as far as hopkins is concerned. If the fight takes place it will be at the weight hopkins wants. Being that he hasnt fought lower than 170 in a few years I dont see him goin any longer than that.

                    Did anyone notice how much williams was leaning in with his lead side against wright.

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                      #120
                      If this fight ever happens, I got B-Hop by execution.

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