Pacquiao Beats "one-dimensional" Hatton, Says Juan Diaz

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  • Pullcounter
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    #131
    Originally posted by hammerhiem
    Lazcano has been TKO'd once in 1997 it's about as relevant to the Hatton fight as Medgoen Singsurat
    hatton has a 69.57 KO % and hatton made tszyu quit and tszyu never been stopped since vince phillips.

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    • hammerhiem
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      #132
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      lol 99%.... ur exaggerating.



      the argument goes like this and I'll even put it in valid statements for you...
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      The first argument was whether or not hatton ever struggled at 140

      premise #1: If hatton struggles with lazcano, then he has struggled at 140

      premise #2: hatton struggled with lazcano

      conclusion:hatton has struggle at 140

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      the 2nd argument was whether or not hatton struggled with lazcano

      premise #3: if lazcano, whois coming out of retirement, goes 12 rounds against hatton, then hatton struggled with lazcano

      premise #4: lazcano goes 12 rounds against hatton

      conclusion: hatton struggled with lazcano
      Premise 2 is wrong, hatton did not struggle with lazcano a 10 round to 2 is not a struggle.

      premise 3 is also wrong, Lazcano has only been stopped once, 10 years before the hatton fight, thier is no reason to think that he would get Ko'd.

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      • Pullcounter
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        #133
        Originally posted by hammerhiem
        Premise 2 is wrong, hatton did not struggle with lazcano a 10 round to 2 is not a struggle.
        premise 2 follows from the 2nd conclusion so all I have to prove is premise 3
        premise 3 is also wrong, Lazcano has only been stopped once, 10 years before the hatton fight, thier is no reason to think that he would get Ko'd.
        hatton has a 69.57 KO % and hatton made tszyu quit and tszyu never been stopped since vince phillips. also lazcaon was coming off more than a year of inactivity.

        there was every reason to expect a stoppage of some sort.

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        • leemoorcroft
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          #134
          if you come to fight hatton will win no dubt he lost only to floyd pbf is one if them borein tactical fighters who uses his perfect defence to win fights you toe to toe with hatton hes the best cant see this bein a diaz hattons more quiker and wont be der for the taken expect a hatton maywaether 2 in decemberan lazcano lost nearly every round agianst hatton was the tenth round he wobbled him ppl were like the ref saved him he was hurt doubt he was getin k,o,d though ricky deserves credit hes thought alot of great fighters and is the best light welta by far

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          • rod_serrs
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            #135
            Pacman's speed will definetly be an issue in the fight, however Hatton can cut-off the ring pretty good and might be able to bully Pacman around in spurts. With that said Hatton will need to show improvements in his defense or he can end up eating A LOT of punches. I don't expect Pacman to be looking for a KO win in this fight so it will be up to Hatton to bring some x-factor to the fight and surprise, namely a vast improvement in defense and a bit more footwork.

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            • loui_ludwig
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              #136
              Originally posted by hammerhiem
              How many fighters have quit when fighting Pac?

              One, a totally shot Oscar DLH who's face was NOT CUT.

              FAIL!
              No disrespcect to Morales but he shook his head when the ref was counting. With MAB, his cornermen threw in the towel and when the ref stop it, Marco didn't even protest.

              Oscar is out of prime but remember that most media and fans predicted that Oscar will beat Pac. Now that Pac has beat Oscar, he is now shot.

              As far as the KO lost of Pac, the first one was 17 years old, his body was still devoloping. The 2nd KO was a bodyshot, which Pac didn't make weight and was drained trying to make that weight.

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              • Thwf
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                #137
                Juan Diaz by TKO.

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                • Puntoyhauf
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                  #138
                  Originally posted by Hook
                  No wonder they call him baby bull...
                  LOL....Baby BULLSH!!!YEET!

                  Originally posted by hammerhiem
                  Which Diaz?

                  Juan, Julio or David?

                  lightweight has too many diaz's!
                  It's PACQUITO DIAZ, ...I think.

                  Originally posted by hammerhiem
                  Lazcano has been TKO'd once in 1997 it's about as relevant to the Hatton fight as Medgoen Singsurat
                  IRRELEVANT... did you even considered what happened to Pacquiao's body before he entered the ring with Medgoen?

                  Singsurat came prepared to that fight, but not the undisciplined Pacquiao at that time. Which is the same story in his first defeat.

                  Is it relevant to say that the Pacquiao today will struggle against Jorge Arce if they fight in the same weight? because Arce knocked out Medgoen in only the 1st round. How is that as relevant?

                  The Lazcano fight? well, Lazcano hit Ricky with a left check hook...well not even a full hook as I've seen it and to my shock I think I saw Ricky got hurt.

                  But then we can't just base our predictions from the fighters Ricky and Manny fought. Did you see what Happened to Mosley-Margarito? Cotto defeated Mosley, Margarito defeated Cotto, Mosley def... well you know the rest.


                  Originally posted by S.G.
                  To credit Hatton with even one dimension is somewhat generous
                  ??? Hatton throws jabs and is effective for him to set his punches... and Hatton is one of those fighters who throws great body shots.

                  He is just awkward...not unpredictable, hard to deal with, not graceful, but definitely "not one dimensional" as Juan Diaz said.
                  Last edited by Puntoyhauf; 02-25-2009, 12:11 AM.

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                  • Mr. Ryan
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                    #139
                    Originally posted by Gift Of Gab
                    One-Dimensional my ass. Ricky showed improved footwork and a very good jab against Paulie. Hooking up with Big Floyd has done Ricky good.
                    I think it's pretty easy to say a guy has improved when he fights someone who is afraid of him. Malignaggi hardly threw back, just clinched and held the whole fight. Whenever Malignaggi let his hands go, he connected on him. It was the same Hatton, he just had nothing to fear coming back.

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                    • Michelle21
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                      #140
                      Juan Diaz is right..

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