kelly pavluck admits he doesnt want to fight abraham in germany!!!

[Hitman932]

Off the top of my head I can think of far more disgraceful officiating and judging in the States recently than in Germany. Toney v Oquendo... The 5:10 min round... Cintron v Martinez... Santa Cruz v Casamayor... Bute v Andrade...To name a few.

Urango-Ngoujo (5:10 round) fight took place at the Bell Centre in Montreal.

Bute-Andrade at the (get ready for this) the Bell Centre in Montreal.

This is some of the worst self ownage I have ever seen, what a complete moron.

[Kris Silver]

I also think it's a close fight the more I analyse it. I thought the Hopkins loss may teach Kelly to be a little more varied, but he still looked roughly the same. I think tactically Abraham might have the edge, if he can avoid some body shots and get in will, he has a damn good chance.

Whomever said Kelly has all the belts, well erm, no he doesn't he has two, two other guys have the others. That's the point. Even then, the fact is Kelly and Arthur is increasingly seen as a close fight leading to so much demand for this fight to resolve whom is best once and for all. Delaying it is doing the sport no good.

[hookoutofhell]

hes right to an extent - AA should be trying to make the fight in the US, he should know that fighting in germany is not even an option considering the rep they have.

either way pavlik gets his ass handed to him

[HOMETOWNCHAMP]

Even though AA is my fav boxer I would think that since KP is the champ that it'd be more appropriate for AA to come to the states. If hes not willing to do that then they could always have the fight on neutral territory. Once AA becomes the Champ then he can call the shots.

[mrlopez]

Even though AA is my fav boxer I would think that since KP is the champ that it'd be more appropriate for AA to come to the states. If hes not willing to do that then they could always have the fight on neutral territory. Once AA becomes the Champ then he can call the shots.

Great point!!

[damian5000]

Urango-Ngoujo (5:10 round) fight took place at the Bell Centre in Montreal.

Bute-Andrade at the (get ready for this) the Bell Centre in Montreal.

This is some of the worst self ownage I have ever seen, what a complete moron.

Ok, so 2 of my examples were bad officiating in Canada, and 3 of them in USA. So what? Still waiting for your dumb ass to show me some examples of recent bad officiating in Germany.

Anytime now cum stain....

[RodBarker]

He's just making an excuse to not fight Abraham, he knows he'll be KOed.

The worst robberies I've ever seen have been in the US: Martinez-Cintron, Lewis-Holyfield, Santa Cruz-Casamayor, etc.

Although some people whine and cry about judging in Germany, it actually tends to be more fair there on average than in most countries. I've seen bad judges and referees everywhere, including here in Canada.

Go and look at Miranda vs Abe 1 , Green vs Beyer and some of Ottke's fights , Germany is renown for bad home town decisions in big WT fights , the Danny Green deal was unreal ,,, I dont blame Pavlik one bit for not wanting to fight in Germany , Im sure Kelly would be up for any neutral country if the promo was paying both what they want , Ottke didnt retire undefeated because he was too good .

[billionaire]

Greatest thread ever, over 10 pgs of arguing back and forth while the TS has never provided a link for a quote which really does not fit the personality of the fighter it attributed to.

heres proof you skeptical ****.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/box/news?slug=ap-reboundingchampions&prov=ap&type=lgns

[mellow_mood]

i got king arthur over kelly .... in usa, germany or mars....

plus u will need no judges