Who were the weakest-punching fighters that somehow still won a world title?

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  • deevel79
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    #31
    Originally posted by Sparked_1985
    Then why not just take centre ring then?

    also, he did drop Eubank Twice, that came as a surprise I thought it was just the once. I got his dvd.
    Did u really watch the Hopkins/Joe fight? Joe did not land 1 signifigant punch in that fight. He just edged out Hopkins with his windmill flurries.

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      #32
      Originally posted by deevel79
      Did u really watch the Hopkins/Joe fight? Joe did not land 1 signifigant punch in that fight. He just edged out Hopkins with his windmill flurries.
      Well why didn't Hopkins take centre ring?

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Gambler1981
        Harry Greb W 261 KO(48)
        Nino Benvenuti 82 (35)
        Joey Giardello 101 (33)
        Emile Griffith 85 (23)
        I would say that all of them had atleast average punching power despite their KO records. Griffith, Benvenuti, Giardello and Greb fought a very high level of opposition.

        Jake LaMotta had a terrible KO record but he could punch.

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          #34
          Originally posted by deevel79
          Did u really watch the Hopkins/Joe fight? Joe did not land 1 signifigant punch in that fight. He just edged out Hopkins with his windmill flurries.
          Those windmill flurries would take your head off. Hopkins even admitted after the fight that Joe's punches were like helicopter blades.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Sparked_1985
            Well why didn't Hopkins take centre ring?
            How the hell would i know? Ask Hopkins. One thing i do know for sure though, is that Joe wasnt backing Hopkins up due to his punching power. Hopkins is a counter puncher anyway. He's rarely the one who pushes the fight.

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              #36
              Originally posted by TheManchine
              I would say that all of them had atleast average punching power despite their KO records. Griffith, Benvenuti, Giardello and Greb fought a very high level of opposition.
              This is what I think.

              I mean, if someone lands a solid punch and stops the guy in his tracks, that is solid punching power.

              **** example, but Jennings landed a solid right hand, a half a second later Cotto nails him with a left hook. That is featherfisted. If he had even average power Cotto wouldn't have been able to do that,

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                #37
                Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                Well why didn't Hopkins take centre ring?
                It is all about points and Joe is the master of scoring them. If Hopkins would of stayed stationary in the center of the ring Joe would of scored at will. Kessler tried the Center approach and look how that turned out.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by TheManchine
                  I would say that all of them had atleast average punching power despite their KO records. Griffith, Benvenuti, Giardello and Greb fought a very high level of opposition.
                  That is true, Griffith and Greb where the first guy to come into my mind after the usual suspects. If you fall below 20-25% your power is below average, imo.

                  There is a lot of truth in what you say though.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by deevel79
                    How the hell would i know? Ask Hopkins. One thing i do know for sure though, is that Joe wasnt backing Hopkins up due to his punching power. Hopkins is a counter puncher anyway. He's rarely the one who pushes the fight.
                    Okay, take Hopkins out of the equation.

                    and just use Calzaghe's 45 other fights.

                    Joe hits hard enough to command centre ring and keep it there, with pitty pat flurries and a solid shot thrown in in the latter part of his career.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by The Gambler1981
                      That is true, Griffith and Greb where the first guy to come into my mind after the usual suspects. If you fall below 20-25% your power is below average, imo.

                      There is a lot of truth in what you say though.
                      Greb was what I'd describe a volume puncher, someone who relied on being able to outwork his opposition, but he must've had some punching power since many of his opponents were badly beaten up at the end of the fight, for example Gene Tunney who said that he had no idea where he was for the last 3-5 rounds of the fight and came very close to being stopped.

                      Griffith was not a big puncher by any means but many of his opponents were bigger than him or known for being nearly impossible to stop. He also admitted that he became a less aggressive fighter after the fatal KO against Benny Paret and never truly looked for the knockout after that fight.

                      Even Whitaker and Pep, never known for their punching power, scored KO's that should keep them out of this list.



                      Prime Pep knocked out Chalky Wright (HOFer), Sal Bartolo, Jock Leslie, Jackie Graves, Humberto Sierra, Eddie Compo and some other very good fighters.
                      Last edited by TheGreatA; 02-23-2009, 06:43 PM.

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