Who has the better resume at 175. RJJ or Michalczewski?

[Great Afrikan]

Jones didn't want to fight in Germany and vice versa.

Roy Jones shouldn't have had to go to Germany because;

1.The US is the mecca of boxing, you want to fight the best you go there....

2.Roy Jones was pound for pound number 1, you can't expect the best not to call shots...

[IMDAZED]

Nobody is saying he wasn't.

What if Pacquiao was asking for 25 million? Nobody would be able to fight him. Basically, it'd be an extraordinarily unreasonable amount to ask for and would rule out any possibilities of him fighting anyone except who HE chose to fight.

He mentioned a big amount to fight in Germany which he obviously didn't want to do.

[S A M U R A I]

He mentioned a big amount to fight in Germany which he obviously didn't want to do.

I know. Jones has never left the USA, not even once. I don't blame him for not wanting to fight in Germany though.



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[IMDAZED]

I know. Jones has never left the USA, not even once. I don't blame him for not wanting to fight in Germany though.

In the amateurs he left plenty. We all know what happened there.

[KESSLER]

Thanks for adding those thoughts to the thread. I wonder how you remember all those details. To say I'm impressed is an understatement. You must think boxing 24/7. Are you Per Åke Persson in real life?

How would you rate them?

Persson got nothing on Kurt Thyboe.

[Zerwas1]

Common opponents:

Virgil Hill
Michalczewski UD 12
Jones KO 4

Notes: Hill was the unified WBA & IBF champion and the number 1 light heavyweight at the time he fought Michalczewski. He had not fought for a year and was coming off a loss to Michalczewski when he fought Roy Jones who KO'd him with a bodyshot.

Montell Griffin
Michalczewski TKO 4
Jones loss by DQ 9, win by KO1

Notes: Griffin was undefeated at the time he fought Jones and coming off two (controversial) wins over James Toney. Griffin was a top contender when he fought Michalzewski but he had recently lost a split decision to Eric Harding.

Richard Hall
Jones TKO 11 (referee stoppage)
Michalczewski TKO 11 (stopped due to swelling), TKO 10 (referee stoppage)

Notes: Jones dominated the interim WBA LHW champion Richard Hall from start to finish. Hall was coming off a loss to Jones when he fought Michalczewski but he put up a good effort and lost somewhat controversially two times.

Derrick Harmon
Roy Jones TKO 11 (corner stoppage)
Dariusz Michalczewski KO 9

Notes: Harmon had recently lost a split decision when he fought Roy Jones, nevertheless he had piled up a good record. After losing to Jones he went onto beat Glen Johnson and Tim Littles and lose a decision to Montell Griffin, then fought Michalczewski and was KO'd in the 9th round.

JC Gonzales
Roy Jones UD 12
Darius Michalczewski loss by SD

Notes: Gonzales was undefeated including a win over an undefeated Julian Letterlough when he fought Jones. Jones dominated him for 12 rounds but failed to finish him. Years later, coming off a majority decision win over Glen Johnson, he beat 48-0 Michalczewski by a split decision.

Jones knocked Gonzales down about 3 times and won every round.
You can easily say that Jones looked better against 90% of their in common opponents and faced them mostly in a better part of their career.

[Dan...]

In the amateurs he left plenty. We all know what happened there.

Yeah, who could ever blame Roy for not wanting to fight outside of the States after South Korea?

Germany is corrupt as *** anyway. We all, to a poster, know that.


On topic, Roy slightly.

But as you said Bat, Roy's greatness was not defined just by his exploits at 175. He was an unbelievable MW and SMW, with his two best wins coming at those weights.

I don't want to disrespect DM, but he isn't on Roy's planet. Not even close.

[BattlingNelson]

Well they fought twice and Dariusz and his team pulled some bull**** in that first fight. In the second fight, Rochigianni actually had gray hair and ****.

Yeah that first fight had a really bad ending (from 2:10):

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[Dan...]

Also, LOL at the Roy haters who voted DM has the better resume at the two. Just LOL.

[IMDAZED]

Yeah that first fight had a really bad ending (from 2:10):

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Yeah and in the second one Rochigianni was coming off a TWO-year layoff and looked like garbage. I'm not sure how that was a good win for Dariusz.