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    #41
    Originally posted by iecen
    to agree with your logic I would have to say that there are bigger fights at 135 for Pac. Floyd being a natural lightweight moving up to fight Deloya at 154 at his strongest weight and beating him doesn't do anything for Floyd's career. there's no difference between the two they are both fighting the fights that makes the most money and nothing else, by the way Ricky is bigger then Floyd.
    that's not true, u give me one name in 130/135/140 bigger than hatton and i will respect this. There is no one name that will bump u 20 spots or anything, an ATG list is based on all ur accomplishments not only on who u beat. It also matter on when u beat them and the manner on witch u did. A victory over DLH simply gave him a belt and it was an SD at that. A victory over hatton for Pac would be incredible and knowing the fact and Hatton is the ring champ, has a belt and is his strongest at 140 is really good for Pac overall career.

    The situation here is that ATG is not necessarily simply on who u beat but a view on the global scale on witch it happen. Hatton going to 147 and floyd beating him will not be looked on the same way as Pac going into 140 and beating him, that's all

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      #42
      another thing, DLH strongest era was in the 147 era when he fought mosley

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        #43
        This is simple Larry. Le me show you

        Manny's Accomplishments
        4 division champ
        112 WBC title agaisnt- Sasakul
        122 IBF titlte against Ledwaba
        130 WBC/Ring titles against Marquez
        135 WBC title against Diaz

        And if Im not mistaken, when he KOd Barrera at 126, was for the Ring title, or Barrera was the ring Champ. Im not sure

        Pacquaio's Resume(Ws and Ls)
        Chatchia Sasakul, Nedal Hussein, Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, Agapito Sanchez, MAB(x2), Morales(x3), JMM(x2), Oscar Larios, Jorge Solis, David Diaz, ODLH


        Floyd's Accomplishments
        5 Division Champ
        130 WBC title against Hernandez
        135 WBC title against Castillo
        140 WBC title against Gatti
        147 WBC/Ring titles agaisnt Baldomir
        154 WBC title against De La Hoya

        Floyd's Resume (Ws and Ls)
        Hernandez,Gerena, Corrales, Castillo(x2),Chavez, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, DLH, Hatton,


        Manny started at JR FlyWeight and has gone up to WW, wich is the equavalent of Floyd going up, up to LHW. Manny KOd Oscar, and was very dominant in the fight something PBF failed to do.

        Plus the Floyds ducking situation and retireing in his prime

        I say Manny is like 38 ATG and Floyd is like 52.

        No hating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
        Last edited by Ch@mpBox@PR; 02-23-2009, 01:00 PM.

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          #44
          Originally posted by larryx
          i just read if pacman beats hatton it would catipulte him into top 30 static...but floys ko'd hatton and took his 0...i dont wanna hear that 147 **** either.....the hate for floyd is sickening..pacman's resume is not better than floyds...pacman fights oscar and hatton and gets praised..floyd beats them first and gets bashed......pacman have fun with floyds sloppy seconds
          Don't be mad homeboy...

          Floyd gets a lot of heat because his fights lack any excitement and his opposition choices after he made it big have been some what lack luster. The wins over Oscar and Hatton were great for his resume, but if that's where it ends, he won't be heralded as high (especially if Pacquiao ends up fighting Cotto too...that would be 2 guys Floyd beat AND fighting the one guy Floyd WOULDN'T fight).

          Generally, we talk about fights Manny had or is going to have. With Floyd, its comprised a lot of "Would've" or "Could've'. Even you can't deny that.

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          • larryx
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            #45
            Originally posted by Ch@mpBox@PR
            This is simple Larry. Le me show you

            Manny's Accomplishments
            4 division champ
            112 WBC title agaisnt- Sasakul
            122 IBF titlte against Ledwaba
            130 WBC/Ring titles against Marquez
            135 WBC title against Diaz

            And if Im not mistaken, when he KOd Barrera at 126, was for the Ring title, or Barrera was the ring Champ. Im not sure

            Pacquaio's Resume(Ws and Ls)
            Chatchia Sasakul, Nedal Hussein, Lehlohonolo Ledwaba, Agapito Sanchez, MAB(x2), Morales(x3), JMM(x2), Oscar Larios, Jorge Solis, David Diaz, ODLH


            Floyd's Accomplishments
            5 Division Champ
            130 WBC title against Hernandez
            135 WBC title against Castillo
            140 WBC title against Gatti
            147 WBC/Ring titles agaisnt Baldomir
            154 WBC title against De La Hoya

            Floyd's Resume (Ws and Ls)
            Hernandez,Gerena, Corrales, Castillo(x2),Chavez, Gatti, Judah, Baldomir, DLH, Hatton,


            Manny started at JR FlyWeight and has gone up to WW, wich is the equavalent of Floyd going up, up to LHW. Manny KOd Oscar, and was very dominant in the fight something PBF failed to do.

            Plus the Floyds ducking situation and retireing in his prime

            I say Manny is like 38 ATG and Floyd is like 52.

            No hating!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
            with what you posted..how is manny 14 spots ahead of floyd???

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              #46
              Originally posted by larryx
              i just read if pacman beats hatton it would catipulte him into top 30 static...but floys ko'd hatton and took his 0...i dont wanna hear that 147 **** either.....the hate for floyd is sickening..pacman's resume is not better than floyds...pacman fights oscar and hatton and gets praised..floyd beats them first and gets bashed......pacman have fun with floyds sloppy seconds
              Pac demolished DLH. Floyd got a gift that could have been a draw. He was running for much of the night.

              Floyd is overrated. Get over it.

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                #47
                Originally posted by larryx
                with what you posted..how is manny 14 spots ahead of floyd???
                competition, manny continued to look for the good challenges while floyd started cherry picking a long time ago

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by PavlikRules
                  Pac demolished DLH. Floyd got a gift that could have been a draw. He was running for much of the night.

                  Floyd is overrated. Get over it.
                  ok you didnt watch that fight then i see..a gift???he was damn near robbed..it was 8-4 at worse...pac fought a weight drained shot oscar

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by 120
                    competition, manny continued to look for the good challenges while floyd started cherry picking a long time ago
                    yea david diaz is the best at 135 right??

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                      #50
                      this board? go take a look at other boards. its no bias, its general opinion by a majority that floyd isn't what his most devoted fans make him out to be.

                      his fans overrate his wins
                      his fans overrate his opponents (hatton is now some kind of invinsible beast that can ko Cotto and Pac with ease)

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