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  • D-Omonist
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    #211
    NOOOOOOO....Not this thread again!!! LMAO!!!!

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    • Pu$$yKiller
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      #212
      Originally posted by blackirish137
      just to clarify, I because I see people not including PRans sometimes when they count the number of American fighters in the p4p lists and other similiar situations. I respect Puerto Rico, and am proud to say they are part of the USA.

      Puerto Rico is part of America, and is 'subject to U.S. jurisdiction and sovereignity'.


      just because its a Commonwealth instead of a state doesnt mean its a seperate nation. the leader of Puerto Rico's government is the President of the United States, innit?

      you know whos in the same exact position as Puerto Rico? The United States ****** Islands. They have their own Olympic team and everything too. but are you try to tell me the United States ****** Islands arent part of the United States?
      Canada, India, Pakistan, ****ladesh, Nigeria, South Africa, Australia and a few countries are from the commonwealth.

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      • pelonxsoldier28
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        #213
        Well when PR's come to America they need not apply for citizenship, they already have it. They have the best of both worlds.

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        • esl_4_u
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          #214
          Originally posted by blackirish137
          just to clarify, I because I see people not including PRans sometimes when they count the number of American fighters in the p4p lists and other similiar situations. I respect Puerto Rico, and am proud to say they are part of the USA.

          Puerto Rico is part of America, and is 'subject to U.S. jurisdiction and sovereignity'.


          just because its a Commonwealth instead of a state doesnt mean its a seperate nation. the leader of Puerto Rico's government is the President of the United States, innit?

          you know whos in the same exact position as Puerto Rico? The United States ****** Islands. They have their own Olympic team and everything too. but are you try to tell me the United States ****** Islands arent part of the United States?
          Out of respect for the Puerto Rico fighters, we let them be called what they want. Just because some European Conquerors said, "I'll take that Island and guess what...we'll tax them, but we won't let them vote". Puerto Ricans don't get US Passports and they have to get green cards to stay in the "mainland of the US". So I say, "let the Puerto Ricans be Puerto Ricans".

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          • oc9979
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            #215
            On March 2, President Woodrow Wilson signed the Jones Act. With this law:

            1. Puerto Rico became a territory of the United States ("organized but unincorporated,")
            2. A bill of rights was created.
            3. Separated the three governmental powers into: the legislative, executive and judicial branches.
            4. United States granted Puerto Ricans U.S. statutory citizenship, which means that Puerto Ricans were granted citizenship by act of Congress, not by the Constitution and citizenship is therefore not guaranteed by it. (The Puerto Rican citizenship ceased, it was not until 1927 that it was reestablished for residency purposes only.)
            As citizens, they were now allowed to join the army, only 300 rejected the citizenship and many others refused to join the army. During World War I, over 18,000 Puerto Ricans served.

            5. Established that elections were to be celebrated every four years.
            6. English is decreed the official language of Puerto Rico.

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            • TuRoK'em
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              #216
              lets just say its an island owned by the u.s. just like alaska and if im correct sarah palin is the one that runs things there

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              • oc9979
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                #217
                The Citizens Educational Foundation

                Persons born in Puerto Rico acquire U.S. citizenship under 8 U.S.C. 1402, which is part of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act. This is statutory citizenship rather than citizenship arising from birth or naturalization in a state of the union under the 14th ********* of the U.S. Constitution. The fact that one or both parents of a person born in Puerto Rico may have been born in a state is not controlling. This is because the citizenship of persons born in Puerto Rico arises from the place of birth rather than relationship to U.S. citizen parents.

                As a practical matter, there is little danger that persons already born in Puerto Rico will have their U.S. citizenship revoked. Even though it is not 14th ********* citizenship, once granted, U.S. citizenship is protected by the U.S. Constitution from being taken away arbitrarily. Congress can not take away citizenship previously granted to Puerto Ricans in a way that would be discriminatory or without any legitimate purpose. For example, if Puerto Rico becomes an independent nation, Congress could end U.S. citizenship for Puerto Ricans; but, even in that event, those who already have U.S. citizenship would probably be able to make a choice between U.S. and Puerto Rican citizenship. Those who wanted to keep U.S. citizenship most likely could do so.

                The more fundamental problem is that there is no constitutional guaranty that U.S. citizenship will continue to be granted by Congress. The U.S. Constitution does not protect citizenship for Puerto Rico in the future. While it is the policy of Congress to continue to grant U.S. citizenship in the future, Congress does not have the power to bind a future Congress to that policy by statute. A future Congress can always change that policy, and might do so if, for example, Congress ever recognizes Puerto Rico as a separate nation with its own national citizenship as proposed by the commonwealth party. Even while U.S. administration continues, based on recognition of Puerto Rico as a nation in the legal and political sense, Congress could return to a policy similar to the practice before U.S. citizenship was granted in 1917 by ending conferral of U.S. citizenship for persons born in Puerto Rico.

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                • pistol whip
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                  #218
                  Originally posted by oc9979
                  The Citizens Educational Foundation

                  Persons born in Puerto Rico acquire U.S. citizenship under 8 U.S.C. 1402, which is part of the U.S. Immigration and Nationality Act. This is statutory citizenship rather than citizenship arising from birth or naturalization in a state of the union under the 14th ********* of the U.S. Constitution. The fact that one or both parents of a person born in Puerto Rico may have been born in a state is not controlling. This is because the citizenship of persons born in Puerto Rico arises from the place of birth rather than relationship to U.S. citizen parents.

                  As a practical matter, there is little danger that persons already born in Puerto Rico will have their U.S. citizenship revoked. Even though it is not 14th ********* citizenship, once granted, U.S. citizenship is protected by the U.S. Constitution from being taken away arbitrarily. Congress can not take away citizenship previously granted to Puerto Ricans in a way that would be discriminatory or without any legitimate purpose. For example, if Puerto Rico becomes an independent nation, Congress could end U.S. citizenship for Puerto Ricans; but, even in that event, those who already have U.S. citizenship would probably be able to make a choice between U.S. and Puerto Rican citizenship. Those who wanted to keep U.S. citizenship most likely could do so.

                  The more fundamental problem is that there is no constitutional guaranty that U.S. citizenship will continue to be granted by Congress. The U.S. Constitution does not protect citizenship for Puerto Rico in the future. While it is the policy of Congress to continue to grant U.S. citizenship in the future, Congress does not have the power to bind a future Congress to that policy by statute. A future Congress can always change that policy, and might do so if, for example, Congress ever recognizes Puerto Rico as a separate nation with its own national citizenship as proposed by the commonwealth party. Even while U.S. administration continues, based on recognition of Puerto Rico as a nation in the legal and political sense, Congress could return to a policy similar to the practice before U.S. citizenship was granted in 1917 by ending conferral of U.S. citizenship for persons born in Puerto Rico.

                  Shut the *** up!!!! 14th ammendment!!!


                  In 1866, Senator Jacob Howard clearly spelled out the intent of the 14th ********* by writing:

                  "Every person born within the limits of the United States, and subject to their jurisdiction, is by virtue of natural law and national law a citizen of the United States. This will not, of course, include persons born in the United States who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers accredited to the Government of the United States, but will include every other class of persons. It settles the great question of citizenship and removes all doubt as to what persons are or are not citizens of the United States. This has long been a great desideratum in the jurisprudence and legislation of this country."

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                  • Buffalo
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                    #219
                    I am puerto rican and I don't need an american passport to enter the us and I am an american citizen. But who gives a f...

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                    • Weebler I
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by Akucapri
                      Andre Wards British as well as Bute and Katsidis.
                      Bute and Katsidis I understand, butt why Ward? (pun intended)

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