Can Floyd Mayweather be considered a HOF'er and ATG?

[Burning Desire]

lol so let's never count a loss when a fighter suffers an injury from now on, seems about right

Come off it so you really count that as a legit loss ? considering the stage of his career ? and the type of freak accident it was which had nothing to do with his opponent ? so i suppose when we rate Sugar Ray Robinson, he shouldn't be P4P number 1 or higher than Floyd Mayweather Jr.

Because he had some pretty "Embarrassing losses" like being knocked down by a guy who had only ever scored 1 knockdown against an opponent in 45 fights, if we all fought that way then most of the ATG's in the top 10, would be dropped several places.

Its flawed logic and your only using that logic, to downgrade Pernell Whitaker so it makes your point look better. When it doesn't the fact is Pernell Whitaker is a greater fighter than Floyd Mayweather Jr, he had the better wins he dominated the Lightweight/Welterweight divisions and fought the best. And all you have to do is look at list of fighters they both beat and compare it.

[Pullcounter]

definite HOFer and ATG (but possibly not top 10).

[andrewcuff]

definite HOFer and ATG (but possibly not top 10).

Possible not Top 10?

[a-raines21]

I rate him with Hatton. They have equal resumes IMO.


Tsyzu>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anyone of Floyd's resume.......

tsyzu>>>>>>> hatton? idiot

[UnDeniable]

I've seen him fight and by watching his skillset and his accomplishments, he is in my mind a bonafide ATG


He's nowhere near top 10 OAT but i would place him top 50


I would also favour him over any 130lber in history, and before the haters start complaining, i have seen Arguello but i just feel a prime mayweather was an absolute beast at 130, his speed and defense were accompanied by power ( Compared to the higher weights ) and he may be the most accurate puncher ever

And to the TS, you don't honestly feel Calzaghe is greater than Floyd do you, i understand your a huge Kessler fan but having Kessler as your biggest win is not ATG worthy

[BattlingNelson]

I've seen him fight and by watching his skillset and his accomplishments, he is in my mind a bonafide ATG


He's nowhere near top 10 OAT but i would place him top 50


I would also favour him over any 130lber in history, and before the haters start complaining, i have seen Arguello but i just feel a prime mayweather was an absolute beast at 130, his speed and defense were accompanied by power ( Compared to the higher weights ) and he may be the most accurate puncher ever

And to the TS, you don't honestly feel Calzaghe is greater than Floyd do you, i understand your a huge Kessler fan but having Kessler as your biggest win is not ATG worthy

My main issue with Floyd is written in the TS. Retiring in his prime while dangerous challengers where waiting. That's not an ATG IMO.

[BattlingNelson]

More votes please.

[Butterball]

Mayweaher is an ATG Top 20, it's just these forums he is bashed on because it's dominated by racist Mexican and many white supremacists.

[Brandish]

Bottom line is Mayweather last fought at age 30.

Find embarassing losses for Jones or Whitaker in their primes.






That's what I thought.

30 is not prime in boxing..what planet are you on. arguello most fighters who start at the lighter weights are done by the age of 29. look at barrera, morales, and and chavez.. somehow floyd is supposed to be in his prime after going thru five weight classes.

[The Gambler1981]

My defintion of an All time great- A fighter that would be great in any era.

HOF defintion- One of the best fighters of your era

I think that FLoyd fits into both categories. He is a sure fire first ballot HOF for sure.

I think that FLoyd had the talent, phsyical skill, boxing brain and dedication to the sport (training like a mad man, never out of shape, the way he worked at his craft) to be a true chapion in any era.


He may not have loved the sport, but countless fighters throughout history only fought to pay the bills so I do not hold it against him.