Joe Calzaghe Felt Chad Dawson Wasn't Ready Yet

[S A M U R A I]

Calzaghe didn't feel anyone was ready until they were nearly 40.

Without wishing to get too deeply involved in this discussion, I find these kind of posts slightly odd. On one hand you have people talking about Calzaghe "waiting until they were old" (we see this same post all the time here) and on the other hand the same people are saying Dawson deserves a shot at Calzaghe.

Well, I agree that Dawson deserves a shot, it would probably be a good fight, but why is Chad praised so much when his last win was 40 year-old Tarver, then before that his "loss" to 40 year old Johnson, and next he's fighting 40 year-old Tarver again, plus he wants a crack at 37 year old Calzaghe.

Tell me, why is it OK for one guy and not the other? And do you think people will be talking about Dawson in years to come, just like they are talking about Calzaghe right now; basically, saying he made his name off washed-up fighters out of their prime?

That's all I really have to say in the discussion. I'm not reading the whole thread because it rambles on for years, so I apologize in advance if my questions have already been answered.


To Electrode: The Manfredo fight was done for publicity. At the time, guys on the Contender series were better known than than the then-current champions, unfortunately. That is the sad truth. Calzaghe didn't actually want that fight -- you should try to find the interviews with Steve Bunce from around that time where JC expressed no enthusiasm at all for the Manfredo fight -- but felt it was worthwhile taking because it was an easy fight for a good payday and some name recognition in the US. HBO wanted that fight. They set ip up, not Calzaghe. He didn't have to take it, but given that it was an easy night's work, he got paid well (apparently, although I don't know the figure), and was trying to get his name a little better known in America, it wasn't such a bad move at the tihe time.



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[Dan...]

LOL, I cannot believe some of you Joe fans still attempt to rationally argue with ppl who insert one-line posts about Calzaghe fighting old guys. You guys are ***n nuts!! Hats off for the effort though.

[ArachTinilith]

Very Wise for Calzaghe. He beat the elite, now retire undefeated.

[miamijohn]

If any Joe fans have any doubts, check my blog and argue that!! It will shut you up or make you look ******....

[miamijohn]

Very Wise for Calzaghe. He beat the elite, now retire undefeated.

I hope you dont get caught

[S A M U R A I]

LOL, I cannot believe some of you Joe fans still attempt to rationally argue with ppl who insert one-line posts about Calzaghe fighting old guys. You guys are ***n nuts!! Hats off for the effort though.

Danc, you don't even need to be a Joe fan to realize that what some people are saying is completely hypocritical. Why slate one fighter for fighting two old fighters and at the same time praise an even younger fighter for fighting two old fighters and wanting to fight a third just to make a name for himself?

Being a fan of either fighter is irrelevant. The fact that people do this is "***in nuts." They are hypocrites.



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[Dan...]

Danc, you don't even need to be a Joe fan to realize that what some people are saying is completely hypocritical. Why slate one fighter for fighting two old fighters and at the same time praise an even younger fighter for fighting two old fighters and wanting to fight a third just to make a name for himself?

Being a fan of either fighter is irrelevant. The fact that people do this is "***in nuts." They are hypocrites.

There comes a point where you jsut need to let it go and ignore these guys. They didn't post in an attempt to stimulate a logical debate so why waste your time? They simply want to put in their little bit about Joe being a joke that beat up on grandads and then they *** off. I just think it is a waste of time responding to that crap.

[Check]

Without wishing to get too deeply involved in this discussion, I find these kind of posts slightly odd. On one hand you have people talking about Calzaghe "waiting until they were old" (we see this same post all the time here) and on the other hand the same people are saying Dawson deserves a shot at Calzaghe.

Well, I agree that Dawson deserves a shot, it would probably be a good fight, but why is Chad praised so much when his last win was 40 year-old Tarver, then before that his "loss" to 40 year old Johnson, and next he's fighting 40 year-old Tarver again, plus he wants a crack at 37 year old Calzaghe.

Tell me, why is it OK for one guy and not the other? And do you think people will be talking about Dawson in years to come, just like they are talking about Calzaghe right now; basically, saying he made his name off washed-up fighters out of their prime?

That's all I really have to say in the discussion. I'm not reading the whole thread because it rambles on for years, so I apologize in advance if my questions have already been answered.

The difference is Joe is ending his career and Dawson is just starting his. Although Tarver isnt very good imo he trumps pretty much every fight Joe did in his early stages. Dawson fighting Joe at this point in his career would be a stepping stone for other huge fights, not a retirement.

[Check]

Very Wise for Calzaghe. He beat the elite, now retire undefeated.

Jeff Lacy and 38 year old Roy Jones Jr are elite.

[miamijohn]

Without wishing to get too deeply involved in this discussion, I find these kind of posts slightly odd. On one hand you have people talking about Calzaghe "waiting until they were old" (we see this same post all the time here) and on the other hand the same people are saying Dawson deserves a shot at Calzaghe.

Well, I agree that Dawson deserves a shot, it would probably be a good fight, but why is Chad praised so much when his last win was 40 year-old Tarver, then before that his "loss" to 40 year old Johnson, and next he's fighting 40 year-old Tarver again, plus he wants a crack at 37 year old Calzaghe.

Tell me, why is it OK for one guy and not the other? And do you think people will be talking about Dawson in years to come, just like they are talking about Calzaghe right now; basically, saying he made his name off washed-up fighters out of their prime?

That's all I really have to say in the discussion. I'm not reading the whole thread because it rambles on for years, so I apologize in advance if my questions have already been answered.


To Electrode: The Manfredo fight was done for publicity. At the time, guys on the Contender series were better known than than the then-current champions, unfortunately. That is the sad truth. Calzaghe didn't actually want that fight -- you should try to find the interviews with Steve Bunce from around that time where JC expressed no enthusiasm at all for the Manfredo fight -- but felt it was worthwhile taking because it was an easy fight for a good payday and some name recognition in the US. HBO wanted that fight. They set ip up, not Calzaghe. He didn't have to take it, but given that it was an easy night's work, he got paid well (apparently, although I don't know the figure), and was trying to get his name a little better known in America, it wasn't such a bad move at the tihe time.

Without chad in the division who other than Joe would make sense? Not many in that Division can stop Dawson... Joes the best? fight the best... Hell he might come out of retirement and fight Larry Merchant!!!