Who do you think is the most over rated fighter ever???

[JAB5239]

Wow. Tyson never ducked Lewis. Lewis even admits that he was scared by an early Tyson and that he didn't want to fight him early in his career. It's better to say Lewis ducked Tyson because he was scared. Then he finally got brave and fought a old junkie crazy whacko Tyson.

Correct me if Im wrong, and I may be, but I thought I remembered Lewis being Tysons mandatory at one time and Mike giving him step aside money so he could fight someone else, maybe Holyfield. If this is true, he avoided him. Either way, Lewis is still one of the greatest heavyweights ever and is not overrated in my opinion.

[Libido Sanchez]

rocky balboa. wasnt his record something like

50 wins ( 49 kos ) 25 loses with 1 draw.

rubbish balboa. absolute turd

Yeah, but 12 of those losses were robberies. True story.

[andrewcuff]

Can you honestly look at someone in the face and say he beat them in their prime?? Seriously

The first Barrera fight in 2003, the first two Morales fights and the two Marquez fights were all against very good opposition.

[Mr. Fantastic]

The first Barrera fight in 2003, the first two Morales fights and the two Marquez fights were all against very good opposition.

Barrera - after having around 60 fights?? Previous fights weren't against taxi cab drivers either, the wars with Morales & fights with Tapia/Hamed etc.

Morales - I wouldn't even consider the first 2 in Morales' prime either. The first one he lost anyways, the second one, Morales was way off.

Marquez - He's not 30, I honestly think he's on his way out. He may of gotten a win on the 2nd fight, but majority thought Marquez won the fight.

[goblin]

Yes, though I do give him the props of the belts in different weight divisions. I have yet to see him against a great good boxer in his prime.

How DARE U SAY SUCH THINGS!!!!!
*goblin whips out his gloves* whap!!!
Sir i challenge u to u a dual!!!!

[TheGreatA]

Correct me if Im wrong, and I may be, but I thought I remembered Lewis being Tysons mandatory at one time and Mike giving him step aside money so he could fight someone else, maybe Holyfield. If this is true, he avoided him. Either way, Lewis is still one of the greatest heavyweights ever and is not overrated in my opinion.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...56C0A960958260

[Chups]

Can you honestly look at someone in the face and say he beat them in their prime?? Seriously

But I can honestly look at someones face and say he was the underdog in all of those superfights.

Barrera: 4-1 underdog
Marquez: 1-1 with a slight favor to Marquez
Morales 1: even
Morales 2: 2-1 underdog
Oscar: 3-1 underdog

[JAB5239]

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpag...56C0A960958260

"The Source" strikes again!! Thank you my friend.

[AztecWanker]

Hagler is definitely not overrated. I don't think many people realise how good a lot of the guys were that are on his record. Hearns is a massive win and yes, he was very big for his starting welterweight division, but Duran, even though he was the only to go the distance with him, is most definitely not big for a lightweight. He is actually on the small side for a normal lightweight. In all of his defenses that I remember he was always smaller than his opponent. Juan Manuel Marquez is very small for a lightweight right? Duran is smaller in height and reach than Marquez.

Anyway, a bit off topic there. Hagler dominated a very good era of middleweights, utterly dominated. He beat everyone in and around that challenged his reign from early on through until his past prime loss to Leonard (No, I'm not arguing about the loss. Both guys were over it, Hagler more so in my opinion but he fought a ****** fight full of arrogance).

He lost three times in 67 fights. The first two were very early in his career and both were brutally avenged, the last being to Leonard who would not rematch him for anything, knowing he would not win a rematch I believe.

He went undefeated from '76 until '87. He held the undisputed, unified middleweight crown from '80 until '87 and would have held it a year earlier if not for the bad decision of the draw against Vito.

Before he won his title he beat the very fine, highly touted, and undefeated Sugar Ray Seales twice, once by wide UD and once by KO in 1 and also the great Bennie Brisco by a wide UD. He also beat a slew of undefeated top prospects while a young, green prospect himself such as the aforementioned Seales, Johnny Baldwin, Phillips and Colbert.

After he won the title he had a huge reign, beating numerous great champions along with two legendary ATG's and only ever losing in his very last, highly controversial fight in which many think he won.

I don't think he is at all overrated. His record speaks for itself.

Damn good post. Anybody that thinks that Hagler is overrated is messed up.

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[Hitman932]

Damn good post. Anybody that thinks that Hagler is overrated is messed up.

Anyone thinking Hagler is overrated should get a mandatory month ban so they can reflect on what a moron they have become.