Kermit Cintron Says - "I Wil Defeat Miguel Cotto"

[Pugilistic™]

Cotto would break him down.

Cintron has no heart.

[jpmesq0332]

Cintron did what few others would dare to do. He stepped up to 154 to face Martinez, a guy many were calling the real deal at 154. Hey, he thought he was head butted but now knows he wasn't. It amazes me how everyone crucifies him for this. In the heat of the action he was hit, not really hurt, but actually thought he had been hit with the head of Martinez. So what. He fought back and actually took a few rounds after the 7th. Go back and watch the fight and tell me that Cintron didn't win all of the early rounds (1-4). He did. Hey, this wasn't Cintron's best but he was competitive, landed a few hard punches (more than Martinez did) and now knows and accepts the draw. The fact is this. The only guy still to beat Cintron as a pro is Margarito. That's the same for Cotto and the same for Martinez. For some reason, people seem to want to lower Cintron but to me, he's still a work in progress with a huge upside. Nothing has changed in my mind. He can still go in and **** with anyone at 147. I'd love to see the Cotto Cintron fight and will definitely buy it.

Have you seen his fight with teddy reid? mark suarez? Margarito 2? he can take a good deal of punishment. He's no margarito in this department, but then again margarito is going to be a bit "slower" when he gets older.

We're in the minority here Boxing Freak and MrRupo-- outmanned and outgunned. But I've been making the same arguments elsewhere on the info superhighway(though its like spitting against the wind)-- virtually identical to Boxing Freak's after 3 viewings of the bout (painful as it was to watch again and again and again), and I come to the conclusion that a draw was a plausible and entirely fair result. Kerm easily could have been said to have won 4 of the first 6 (granted: they were close and boring), and even properly with a 8-10 in #7, 8 or 9 (I forget which one I thought he clearly landed the harder punches-- think it was 8) and 10. Heck, its disappointing he didn't step on the gas in 11 or 12 to win the damn thing outright.

As for the other craziness of Saturday night--- some can be attributable to Kerm (he shouldn't have argued his mistaken headbutt case on the canvas instead of getting right up during the count, nor should he have done that joyless "victory dance" immediately post fight). But one of the reasons I like Kerm so much (apart from he's a local Philly area kid I used to watch wrestle in h.s. against my school)-- as a boxer/athlete and more imporantly as a person-- is that he has overcome all sorts of adversity in his life and tries to stay positive (though more continues to get thrown at him----and yes to all the haters out there-- he was born in Puerto Rico and lived there until he was 8, go do some homework and read about his story and then feel freaking ashamed of yourselves), never backs down from a challenge and shows real joy when he wins and real emotion when he hasn't. He's freaking human--let's crucify him. I just don't get the venom that exists out there (and frankly has for years). After all the craziness, and the constant booing of the crowd given the, it struck me that his "dance" showed me that his joy was missing Saturday even before the draw was announced (and even if he mistakenly thought he deserved to have won due to the headbutt).

And now that he has seen the replay, he's admitted he was wrong. In the last month, I heard about 5 different versions of Margaritos/Capilitos/Arums stories and finger pointing about what happened with Mosely-- and yet not a single one has manned up and admitted that they were wrong. I ask you: which fighter has the integrity? fight game aside, which is the better man? (although I'll keep on referring to Kerm as a "good kid").

The one thing I disagree with you both, however, is that I feel pretty strongly that Cotto is NOT the right matchup for Kerm next. I'd like to see one bout where Kerm demonstrates that he's "got his groove back" (Ndou was a solid, but not particularly impressive decision). I like to see one fight where Kerm demonstrates that Ronnie Shields is making him a better fighter-- and building upon what Manny built up in some of those fights Mrrupo cites. If that means taking on a Gomez, a Delvin Rodriguez or even a lesser "tune up"-- then I'd do it if I was Lou DiBella (knowing Kerm, he probably strongly disgarees and he's on a Cotto "visionquest" much like he was against Margs the second time around--- a fight where I think Kerm's redemptive effort to "just ****" with him, ill-advised though it may have seemed at the time-- looks even more noble and impressive with what we know now about plaster of paris hands).

I'm also a bit concerned that we don't know the whole story about Kerm's hands which have plagued him throughout his career. HAve the doctors told him he only has so many fights left before the cumulative damage impairs him for good? If so, then that MIGHT be a reasons he maxmizes his payday and takes on Martinez at late notice instead of Clottey (and gives up a chance to regain his 147 belt), and may be why he's beating the drum for Cotto right now.

I also don't want him to fight Cotto for the selfish reason that Cotto's stock is rising in my eyes given his integrity in calling Margs and Arum to task as to the former, for his attempted crimes, and as to the latter, for assisting and seeking to enable the former to commit said crimes. So I don't want to see 2 current favorites beating each other's heads in.

Keeping fighting the fight guys though we might be outnumbered.

[RobbingHood]

We're in the minority here Boxing Freak and MrRupo-- outmanned and outgunned. But I've been making the same arguments elsewhere on the info superhighway(thought its like spitting against the wind)-- virtually identical to Boxing Freak's after 3 viewings of the bout (painful as it was to watch again and again and again), and I come to the conclusion that a draw was a plausible and entirely fair result. Kerm easily could have been said 4 of the first 6, and even properly with a 8-10 in #7, 8 and 10. Heck, its disappointing he didn't step on the gas in 11 or 12 to win the damn thing outright.

As for the other craziness of Saturday night--- some can be attributable to Kerm (he shouldn't have argued his mistaken headbutt case on the canvas during the count , nor should he have done that joyless "victory dance" immediately post fight). But one of the reasons I like Kerm so much (apart from he's a local Philly area kid I used to watch wrestle in h.s. against my school)-- as a boxer/athlete and more imporantly as a person-- is that he has overcome all sorts of adversity in his life and tries to stay positive (though more continues to get thrown at him----and yes to all the haters out there-- he was born in Puerto Rico and lived there until he was 8, go do some homework and read about his story and then feel freaking ashamed of yourselves), never backs down from a challenge and shows real joy when he wins and real emotion when he hasn't. He's freaking human--let's crucify him. I just don't get the venom that exists out there (and frankly has for years). After all the craziness, and the constant booing of the crowd given the, it struck me that his "dance" showed me that his joy was missing Saturday even before the draw was announced (and even if he mistakenly thought he deserved to have won due to the headbutt).

And now that he has seen the replay, he's admitted he was wrong. In the last month, I heard about 5 different versions of Margaritos/Capilitos/Arums story about what happened with Mosely-- and yet not a single one has manned up and admitted that they were wrong. I ask you: which fighter has the integrity?

The one thing I disagree with you both, however, is that I feel pretty strongly that Cotto is NOT the right matchup for Kerm next. I'd like to see one bout where Kerm demonstrates that he's "got his groove back" (Ndou was a solid, but not particularly impressive decision). I like to see one fight where Kerm demonstrates that ROnnie Shields is making him a better fighter-- and building upon what Manny built up in some of those fights Mrrupo cites. If that means taking on a Gomez, a Delvin Rodriguez or even a lesser "tune up"-- then I'd do it if I was Lou DiBella (knowing Kerm, he probably strongly disgarees and he's on a Cotto "visionquest" much like he was against Margs the second time around--- a fight where I think Kerm's effort to "just ****" with him, ill-advised though it may have been at the time-- looks even more noble and impressive with what we know now about plaster man).

I'm also a bit concerned that we don't know the whole story about Kerm's hands which have plagued him throughout his career. HAve the doctors told him he only has so many fights left before the cumulative damage impairs him for good? If so, then that MIGHT be a reasons he maxmizes his payday and takes on Martinez at late notice instead of Clottey (and gives up a chance to regain his 147 belt), and may be why he's beating the drum for Cotto right now.

I also don't want him to fight Cotto for the selfish reason that Cotto's stock is rising in my eyes given his integrity in calling Margs and Arum to task for the former, his attempted crimes, and for the latter, for assisting and seeking to enable the former to committ said crimes. So I don't want to see 2 favorites beating each other's heads in.

Keeping fighting the fight guys though we might be outnumbered.

Even so, Cintron is the mop and Cotto is the cleaner. It'll be end of story once they add the floor.

[jpmesq0332]

Even so, Cintron is the mop and Cotto is the cleaner. It'll be end of story once they add the floor.

Did you actually read the post? I said Cotto/Cintron is NOT a good idea for Kerm next.

[joeperez]

cintron a cry baby

cintron would get knock the hell out by cotto hes not close to the same class as miguel he needs to keep dreaming hes a over rated club fighter that lost any respect he had up till last sat night damm cry baby you got knock out:

[Jamaro85]

Kermit only wants to get Cottos attention and maybe he will get more than that when Cottos sends his wannabe puerto rican ass to Dr. House to see what tha heck is going on inside his body after Cotto hit him with some rib shots

If this fight happens I could definitely see Kermit making a guest appearance on House. Too bad he'd be just another random guest actor to the rest of the world.

[larr12]

the problem with cintron are:

a) he don't have a heart
b) he cry like a baby
c) he's not a true boricua

[a-raines21]

Cotto would break him down.

Cintron has no heart.

co sign..... cotto by ko in round 7

[jpmesq0332]

c) he's not a true boricua

OK-- someone needs to explain this one to me (a white boy from the Philly suburbs) in a multicultural/diversity sense.

Kerm's born in Puerto Rico, lives there until his mom passes of cancer around age 8 and then gets sent with his 2 bros to live with his Uncle outside Philly while Dad tries to sort things out back in Puerto Rico, only to have his dad also die suddenly at 43, so he remains and grows up in the U.S., becomes a multi-sport star HS athlete and champion wrestler, only starts boxing in college, and in just about 6/7 years- and some ups/downs-- has one of the world championship belts in boxing's deepest division.

And yet, through all that, he's not a "true boricua"? I would think the Puerto Rican community would have his back through all this. Don't get me wrong--that's not to say I expect him to be as beloved as Cotto is. But WTF, should his own community be piling on with the anti-Clinton venom? That just ain't cool guys-- you should know better and I didn't think thats the way you operate.

[MatchMaker215]

OK-- someone needs to explain this one to me (a white boy from the Philly suburbs) in a multicultural/diversity sense.

Kerm's born in Puerto Rico, lives there until his mom passes of cancer around age 8 and then gets sent with his 2 bros to live with his Uncle outside Philly while Dad tries to sort things out back in Puerto Rico, only to have his dad also die suddenly at 43, so he remains and grows up in the U.S., becomes a multi-sport star HS athlete and champion wrestler, only starts boxing in college, and in just about 6/7 years- and some ups/downs-- has one of the world championship belts in boxing's deepest division.

And yet, through all that, he's not a "true boricua"? I would think the Puerto Rican community would have his back through all this. Don't get me wrong--that's not to say I expect him to be as beloved as Cotto is. But WTF, should his own community be piling on with the anti-Clinton venom? That just ain't cool guys-- you should know better and I didn't think thats the way you operate.

yea,the "true boricua" thing is ******,either way the guy just sucks