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  • Pullcounter
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    #21
    wow i underestimated jenning's toughness.....






















    he'll start squealing like a girl around round 6.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Sparked_1985
      From British Paper: News Of the World

      WBO title challenger Michael Jennings says the tragedies in his life will spur him onto victory against Miguel Cotto on Saturday.

      Jennings saw two brothers and a close friend die at an early age and the memory of their passing will serve as motivation for him when he steps into the ring in Madison Square Garden on February 21.

      The Chorley fighter (34-1, 16 KOs) has been at the top of the domestic weltwerweight scene for three-and-a-half years but fully accepts he is taking a big step up in class against former two-weight champion and pound-for-pound contender Cotto.

      However, Jennings has faced such heartache outside of the ring that he is nothing but positive about getting the chance to meet the Puerto Rican idol.

      "My life is filled with tragedies," Jennings told the News of the World. "I must have a black cloud above my head.

      "Even when I get a world title chance it’s against bloody Cotto! No worries, though. To be the best you have to beat the best.

      "People are writing me off completely, but anything’s possible. He’s like any other man — he has two hands, two legs and a head.

      "My parents, Margaret and Raymond, have had it really hard. When I beat Cotto I’m going to buy mum a new house — although knowing her she won’t want one."

      Before he flew to America Jennings took the time to pay his respects to his brother Stephen who died of leukhemia, Raymond who died of a heroin overdose tribute and Ned who was killed in a car accident last year.

      "On the day of each fight, or as close as I can if I’m fighting away, I visit the graves of our Stephen and our Raymond," Jennings added.

      "People don’t realise [drug addiction] is an illness like alcoholism. A lot of people don’t see it like that and think you’re just a smack head. I’m still proud of him.

      "With Ned it was mad. When I found out he’d been killed it was devastating."

      Another memory that Jennings holds close is the time he and Michael Gomez were stabbed by unknown assailants when out in Manchester with his brother Dave.

      "Two lads on mopeds started shining their lights on us," Jennings said. "We just kept walking and thought nothing of it.

      "Next thing I felt something in my back and I thought I’d been punched. I turned round and there were these guys with helmets.

      "I was ready to say, ‘Let’s have it’, but before I could do that I was covered in blood.

      "Before I knew it Gomez had been slashed and my brother was hit on the head with a truncheon. To this day I don’t know what it was about.

      "The doctors thought the stabbing had punctured my lung because the knife went in a couple of inches, but I was fine after having eight stitches."

      Gomez nearly died after complications in hospital following the incident which will be immortalised in film when a movie of his life comes out. A happy ending may have to be rewritten if Jennings can upset the odds next week.


      link:WBO title challenger Michael Jennings says the tragedies in his life will spur him onto victory against Miguel Cotto on Saturday.

      Jennings saw two brothers and a close friend die at an early age and the memory of their passing will serve as motivation for him when he steps into the ring in Madison Square Garden on February 21.

      The Chorley fighter (34-1, 16 KOs) has been at the top of the domestic weltwerweight scene for three-and-a-half years but fully accepts he is taking a big step up in class against former two-weight champion and pound-for-pound contender Cotto.

      However, Jennings has faced such heartache outside of the ring that he is nothing but positive about getting the chance to meet the Puerto Rican idol.

      "My life is filled with tragedies," Jennings told the News of the World. "I must have a black cloud above my head.

      "Even when I get a world title chance it’s against bloody Cotto! No worries, though. To be the best you have to beat the best.

      "People are writing me off completely, but anything’s possible. He’s like any other man — he has two hands, two legs and a head.

      "My parents, Margaret and Raymond, have had it really hard. When I beat Cotto I’m going to buy mum a new house — although knowing her she won’t want one."

      Before he flew to America Jennings took the time to pay his respects to his brother Stephen who died of leukhemia, Raymond who died of a heroin overdose tribute and Ned who was killed in a car accident last year.

      "On the day of each fight, or as close as I can if I’m fighting away, I visit the graves of our Stephen and our Raymond," Jennings added.

      "People don’t realise [drug addiction] is an illness like alcoholism. A lot of people don’t see it like that and think you’re just a smack head. I’m still proud of him.

      "With Ned it was mad. When I found out he’d been killed it was devastating."

      Another memory that Jennings holds close is the time he and Michael Gomez were stabbed by unknown assailants when out in Manchester with his brother Dave.

      "Two lads on mopeds started shining their lights on us," Jennings said. "We just kept walking and thought nothing of it.

      "Next thing I felt something in my back and I thought I’d been punched. I turned round and there were these guys with helmets.

      "I was ready to say, ‘Let’s have it’, but before I could do that I was covered in blood.

      "Before I knew it Gomez had been slashed and my brother was hit on the head with a truncheon. To this day I don’t know what it was about.

      "The doctors thought the stabbing had punctured my lung because the knife went in a couple of inches, but I was fine after having eight stitches."

      Gomez nearly died after complications in hospital following the incident which will be immortalised in film when a movie of his life comes out. A happy ending may have to be rewritten if Jennings can upset the odds next week.

      Michael "The New Buster Douglas" Jennings.

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      • Sparked_1985
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        #23
        Be fair to Jennings, he got stabbed and thought he got punched.

        lol,

        There will be no screaming like a *****.

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          #24
          Originally posted by hammerhiem
          Rubio is fighting a guy with glaring obvious flaws, it's extremely doubtful he can expose them but at least he has something to work with, Jennings isn't even top 5 WW in the UK, god knows who he got a shot in the first place, but Cotto's flaws are minor and unlikely to be put under threat by such a comparitively poor fighter.
          I would have said Jennings was 'untested' rather than 'comparitively poor', but even so Rubio has the better chance IMHO. As you said, Pavlik has been exposed as having glaring flaws, and maybe Rubio can exploit them. Cotto just doesn't have them... maybe Hatton could 'break his heart', but Jennings just doesn't hit hard enough. He won't KO him and I just can't see him outpointing him. Rubio has a chance of doing either against Pavlik.

          The other thing is the effect their last fights might have on Cotto and Pavlik. While Pavlik was sent to school by B-Hop, Cotto was only 'beaten' by a cheat, and he will no longer consider it a real defeat. It won't dent his confidence.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Emanuel Steward
            Very tight. They are both rightly something like 30-1 underdogs.

            I mean Cotto's chin is P4P not nearly as tough as Kelly's and as Jennings and Rubio have only a punchers chance then probably Jenning's has the best chance.

            Although Rubio has come up the hard way, working his way towards a title shot, travelling around, beating fair competition. He will be hungry, unlike Jenning's who was handed the shot out of thin air and probably felt like asking Cotto for his autograph when he first met him...

            So, it's about even I'd say...
            Hardley, Cottos chin is fine at Welterweight, he went down voluntarily against Margarito. Pavlik has been wobbled by Hopkins, Mckart, Taylor and a few others. Rubio has a high KO percentagewith like 37 out of 43 wins coming by KO Jennings has 16kos out for 30+ wins. Rubio is a big puncher Jennings is not.

            Consider the fact Cotto has never been outboxed whereas Pavlik has been outboxed and hurt on multiple occasions. Rubio has the best shot.
            Last edited by Ryn0; 02-16-2009, 07:54 PM.

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              #26
              I'd agree with Ryn0 -- Cotto has an excellent chin.



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                #27
                Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                I really doubt Michael Jennings gets smashed up like everyone says.

                From what I've seen from him and what I've read about him, he is made from stern stuff. He also has a tidy defence, and decent handspeed.

                He loses though.......obviously.
                Against, domestic opposition he looks good. He's never ever been in there with someone even two steps below Cotto. Jennings isn't a big puncher so a punchers chance is out of the question. Jennings will be punished, he may have some success early but by the 4th he'll be a broken man.

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                  #28
                  Bottom line on this upset poll. Kelly Pavlik got drug in a fight north of his weight class against a fighter that makes EVERYONE he fights look bad. He will lean on that fact to move foward. On the other hand Cotto who seems to have had horrible spots in most of his big fights at 140 and 147 finally couldn't overcome that. He was beaten down in a weight class where he was supposedly kingpin. This can have a lingering effect on any fighter. And right now Cotto is to preoccupied worrying about Arum and Margarito's business. All of that is a recipe for turbulence. That being said I STILL think he should prevail on Saturday night.

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                    #29
                    Jennings!!!

                    I don't think jennings will win , but i'm going to be cheering him on 100%. I have always got to go with the underdog when there is not a fighter i'm a fan of.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Ryn0
                      Against, domestic opposition he looks good. He's never ever been in there with someone even two steps below Cotto. Jennings isn't a big puncher so a punchers chance is out of the question. Jennings will be punished, he may have some success early but by the 4th he'll be a broken man.
                      I think there has to be a point when you judge a fighter on what you see.

                      Jennings looks technically proficent and solid. If he was getting pinged consistantly at his level and involved in life and death struggles I'd fall into the trap of saying he'll get stopped early. but he hasn't, there's not a scratch on his unibrowed face, and I don't think he's ever been down. I think he's good personally.

                      Unlike Lockett, who let's face it, always looked ****.

                      Jennings is defenetely at least a top European level Operator. He'll go to New York with a gameplan, and if he eats a few, I'm sure he can go ultra cautious and limit openings for Cotto. He could go the distance IMO.

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