Did you Have Castillo beating Mayweather for the first fight?

[The Gambler1981]

Nope.

Floyd landed the cleaner shots from what i remember, even late on in the fight I think he was landing some big shots. Gambler can you confirm that?

Where are these clean effective punches castillo was landing on floyd?

Floyd was landing good shots throughout the fight. It was a great give and take fight really.

[The Gambler1981]

I think most people who watch this fight nowadays really expect JLC to win the fight, and look for reasons to give him the fight. If you judge a fight with preconcieved ideas about a fight your score will never be accurate or valid.

[rottenapple]

yea my dad also tells me about this fight that castillo got robbed
whats the punch stats?????/

[Chrismart]

I had a Castillo win...very close though.

[The Gambler1981]

yea my dad also tells me about this fight that castillo got robbed
whats the punch stats?????/

Punch stats are meaningless when judging a fight imo. To really judge a fight you have to act like a judge that means not extra knowlege other then what you see in the ring.

I believe JLC had a punchstat advantage though to answer your question, though that was mostly done over the final 6 rounds.

[Technical_Skill]

I think most people who watch this fight nowadays really expect JLC to win the fight, and look for reasons to give him the fight.

I have said this before, just because HBO says robbery, the haters say robbery, so people look to give rounds to castillo imo.

Its a topic that has been done to death really.

End of thread.

[The Gambler1981]

I have said this before, just because HBO says robbery, the haters say robbery, so people look to give rounds to castillo imo.

Its a topic that has been done to death really.

End of thread.

Pretty much it is over with to me, it is like it always is when talking about this fight. I love that someone told me I was wrong because 60% of this forum thought Floyd lost, that **** is priceless.

I think I will sig that

[Oasis_Lad]

5 polls. The majority had Castillo winning in all of them:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205607&highlight=Castillo+Mayweather+Poll

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=139026&highlight=Castillo+Mayweather+Poll

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=117481&highlight=Castillo+Mayweather+Poll

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=144442&highlight=Castillo+Mayweather+Poll

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42977&highlight=Castillo+Mayweather+Poll

[deuce_drop]

being at both fights, both times having excellent seats, and rooting for floyd AT THE TIME (before his marketing himself got out of hand), i had castillo wining both fights. the pressure, work rate, and constant body attack, really stood out form floyds laying on the ropes and part time pot shots. floyd was really looking tired during the first fight and although has never tired since their first fight, floyd in my eyes and in the opinions of the people sitting with me and around us, everyone thought castillo won.......... it was the same thing in the rematch..................

both fights can be argued each way, but from a normal fight criteria stand point of what stands out in academics of scoring a fight, castillo did what you'd normally score a fight.................

but....................that wasn't the case was it.

[The Gambler1981]

being at both fights, both times having excellent seats, and rooting for floyd AT THE TIME (before his marketing himself got out of hand), i had castillo wining both fights. the pressure, work rate, and constant body attack, really stood out form floyds laying on the ropes and part time pot shots. floyd was really looking tired during the first fight and although has never tired since their first fight, floyd in my eyes and in the opinions of the people sitting with me and around us, everyone thought castillo won.......... it was the same thing in the rematch..................

both fights can be argued each way, but from a normal fight criteria stand point of what stands out in academics of scoring a fight, castillo did what you'd normally score a fight.................

but....................that wasn't the case was it.

An actual explanation wow. In the last half of the first fight Floyd definetly looked worse for ware, and if the fight lasted more rounds he would have been in real trouble.
I still feel that Castillo gave away way to many early rounds to get a decision, especially when you consider the subjective nature of judging fights, also people never bring up the points that got deducted so depending on how those rounds got scored it could make a huge difference in the score cards (if they ended up 10-8 9-9 for Floyd that would be way to much for JLC to overcome).

It was a close fight though, just not enough rounds for JLC to pull it out with how he fared in the first 6 rounds (without a knock down).