If Pacquiao is to beat Hatton he MUST............

[Pacdbest]

That was my point, you have to force Pacman to go backwards, he is slightly more versitile then Hatton but he is not a pinnicle of versitility. If he can force Hatton backward he will crush him and turn his face into meatloaf. If Hatton can force Pacman to fight off his backfoot and maul him, I favor Hatton in that sort of fight.

I do favor Pacman to win by the way, I just see that is the path to victory for either man, but Pacman's scenario is more likely in my eyes.

This is what I will be watching for in the fight to see who has the edge, in my mind.

Before Hatton can do the Mauling inside, How many Jabs & straight left & right hooks can he takes just to get close to pac? I see Pac out landing hatton 4-1 in each exchanges. Pac also do well during clinches. Watch the Velasquez fight, Pac knows how to move his head from one side to the other to avoid punches during a Clinch. Pac also knows how to throw a Powerfull uppercut during a clinch.

[The Gambler1981]

Before Hatton can do the Mauling inside, How many Jabs & straight left & right hooks can he takes just to get close to pac? I see Pac out landing hatton 4-1 in each exchanges. Pac also do well during clinches. Watch the Velasquez fight, Pac knows how to move his head from one side to the other to avoid punches during a Clinch. Pac also knows how to throw a Powerfull uppercut during a clinch.

He will eat lefts for sure. You think Pacman will dominate the fight completely, which is a possibility (and you are a fan of his). I think that the fight is more interesting then that.

Before the Mayweather Hatton fight I put hatton on a 20-25% chance of winning (to me boxing is the theater of the unknown so I never give a fighter less then a 10%, well atleast almost never). I think Hatton has a better chance against Pacman though maybe 10% better, but I still favor Pacman to win 70/30 or 65/35.

Hatton's face will look awful no matter if he wins or loses, he will definetly eat a lot of leather, if he wants to win he has to overcome that though.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

I dont believe Pacquiao is good enough of a counter puncher to make the difference plus, when he is being back up he wont have the same leverage to generate the same power.

DLH managed to trap him on the ropes a couple of times, but Hatton will not only cut him off he will hold him and lean on him when he gets him t****d.

I bet you if Pacquaio allows Hatton to come foward that Hatton will take most of the early rounds and build up a lead, then it will be a case of, if Pacquiao can land that telling blow.

i agree with silencers...going right at Pacquiao is never a good game plan...the reason Floyd was able to neutralize that was because he stuck his forearm right under Hatton's throat, forcing the ref to separate them



against PAC, replace that forearm with a 3punch combo





and also, PAC's ability to throw going backwards is every underrated


in the 3rd Morales fight, the 1st KD came as PAC was going backwards

in the 2nd JMM fight, the KD came as PAC was countering

in the Larios bout, the KD came on a counter as PAC was moving back

in the Velasquez bout, the end came when Hector was caught moving in...






the whole 'Pac cant fight going backwards' is slowly becoming a myth but what's NOT a myth is the fact that its not a good idea to go straight at PAC

[The Gambler1981]

i agree with silencers...going right at Pacquiao is never a good game plan...the reason Floyd was able to neutralize that was because he stuck his forearm right under Hatton's throat, forcing the ref to separate them



against PAC, replace that forearm with a 3punch combo





and also, PAC's ability to throw going backwards is every underrated


in the 3rd Morales fight, the 1st KD came as PAC was going backwards

in the 2nd JMM fight, the KD came as PAC was countering

in the Larios bout, the KD came on a counter as PAC was moving back

in the Velasquez bout, the end came when Hector was caught moving in...






the whole 'Pac cant fight going backwards' is slowly becoming a myth but what's NOT a myth is the fact that its not a good idea to go straight at PAC

None of those fighters are Ricky Hatton, with the exception of JMM he outclasses all of them (Morales in the 3rd Pacman fight was not a good version). You have not seen him fight a whole fight in that way either, doing in spots and over the course of 12 whole rounds is vastly different, ask Miguel Cotto~.

[Dynamite Kid]

i agree with silencers...going right at Pacquiao is never a good game plan...the reason Floyd was able to neutralize that was because he stuck his forearm right under Hatton's throat, forcing the ref to separate them



against PAC, replace that forearm with a 3punch combo





and also, PAC's ability to throw going backwards is every underrated


in the 3rd Morales fight, the 1st KD came as PAC was going backwards

in the 2nd JMM fight, the KD came as PAC was countering

in the Larios bout, the KD came on a counter as PAC was moving back

in the Velasquez bout, the end came when Hector was caught moving in...






the whole 'Pac cant fight going backwards' is slowly becoming a myth but what's NOT a myth is the fact that its not a good idea to go straight at PAC

Im with you, but it sounds like you are thinking of how Hatton ultimately got beat against Mayweather, he abandoned his game plan and come in, in a straight line, because he was desperate after the point deduction.

Hatton generally does not come in straight lines he cuts the ring off well and uses head feints and slips punches to get inside.

I guarantee Pacquiao has never fought anyone like Hatton to compare him too, although i suppose that works both ways. I dont believe Pac is incapable of fighting going backwards, but can he do it without time and space ? because i believe that is what Hatton WILL deny him.


Should be a good fight what ever the outcome.

[-MAKAVELLI-]

None of those fighters are Ricky Hatton, with the exception of JMM he outclasses all of them (Morales in the 3rd Pacman fight was not a good version). You have not seen him fight a whole fight in that way either, doing in spots and over the course of 12 whole rounds is vastly different, ask Miguel Cotto~.

regardless of your rear view opinions of those fighters, i was merely making a point that its not an uncommon thing for PAC to dish out punishment without having to go forward..


but we'll all see on may 2nd...IMHO, it doesnt really matter...with a disadvantage in handspeed and his difficulty against southpaws, i think Pac does what he wants for most of this fight before stopping a bloody hatton

[Pacdbest]

i agree with silencers...going right at Pacquiao is never a good game plan...the reason Floyd was able to neutralize that was because he stuck his forearm right under Hatton's throat, forcing the ref to separate them



against PAC, replace that forearm with a 3punch combo





and also, PAC's ability to throw going backwards is every underrated


in the 3rd Morales fight, the 1st KD came as PAC was going backwards

in the 2nd JMM fight, the KD came as PAC was countering

in the Larios bout, the KD came on a counter as PAC was moving back

in the Velasquez bout, the end came when Hector was caught moving in...






the whole 'Pac cant fight going backwards' is slowly becoming a myth but what's NOT a myth is the fact that its not a good idea to go straight at PAC

Bullseye!! You nailed it!!

[-MAKAVELLI-]

Im with you, but it sounds like you are thinking of how Hatton ultimately got beat against Mayweather, he abandoned his game plan and come in, in a straight line, because he was desperate after the point deduction.

Hatton generally does not come in straight lines he cuts the ring off well and uses head feints and slips punches to get inside.

I guarantee Pacquiao has never fought anyone like Hatton to compare him too, although i suppose that works both ways. I dont believe Pac is incapable of fighting going backwards, but can he do it without time and space ? because i believe that is what Hatton WILL deny him.


Should be a good fight what ever the outcome.

honestly Terrible, not to sound biased or anything but i see a befuddled hatton having difficulty with PAC's head movement and timing


its happened in almost all of PAC's fights...the opponent gets so caught up 'sizing' up PAC that they unknowingly become stationary targets


when opponents first realize the kind of handspeed they're facing, the tend to get more calculated and more economical thus forcing their output to slow...i think hatton falls from the same trap



he'll have his moments, heck he might even get PAC in some troubling spots (if he uses his jab) but overall, i dont think Hatton has the skillset to win and he's too flawed

[Dynamite Kid]

honestly Terrible, not to sound biased or anything but i see a befuddled hatton having difficulty with PAC's head movement and timing


its happened in almost all of PAC's fights...the opponent gets so caught up 'sizing' up PAC that they unknowingly become stationary targets


when opponents first realize the kind of handspeed they're facing, the tend to get more calculated and more economical thus forcing their output to slow...i think hatton falls from the same trap



he'll have his moments, heck he might even get PAC in some troubling spots (if he uses his jab) but overall, i dont think Hatton has the skillset to win and he's too flawed

Fair play Mak.

[The Gambler1981]

regardless of your rear view opinions of those fighters, i was merely making a point that its not an uncommon thing for PAC to dish out punishment without having to go forward..


but we'll all see on may 2nd...IMHO, it doesnt really matter...with a disadvantage in handspeed and his difficulty against southpaws, i think Pac does what he wants for most of this fight before stopping a bloody hatton

I did not deny that he did, but he has never fought a whole fight like that, correct? Doing in spurts is vastly different (a ****e as opposed to the main course).

Go look up how many boxing experts gave Morales a chance in the 3rd fight, those other dudes (except JMM who I already said was better then Hatton but amuch different style) were not good opponents (they were not terrible, but not top shelf).

Like I said I favor Pacman still (70-30 give or take 5 %), I just think it can be a competitive fight and that Hatton could work out a way to win if he can maul Pacman. Now Hatton will have top eat tons of Pacman fire to do this so his face will look hit up (imo), but if he can overcome the cuts and bruising he has a shot in my eyes.
There is no way around it though Hatton's skin and face is a definite weak link in this fight, and if Pacman stops Hatton I think it will be because he Makes Hatton's face look grotesque.

We will see May 2nd though.