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  • Emanuel Steward
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    #41
    Kessler would KO Frazier and outpoint Ali but Froch may only UD them both imo.

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    • potatoes
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      #42
      Originally posted by Ryn0
      Louis weighed like what 200lbs in his prime, Wlad would outweigh him by 30 lbs! Louis would lose the difference in size is much to big. In a P4P sense Louis would KO Wlad though.


      Joe Louis out weighed Billy Conn by about 30 pounds.

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      • potatoes
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        #43
        Originally posted by TheManchine
        Here's a young 21 year old Joe Louis against the 6'6, 240-260 lb Primo Carnera:





        Maybe Wladimir shouldn't be compared to Carnera but there were some similarities between the two.


        You certainly shouldn't compare Klitschko to Carnera, it would be an insult to Carnera!

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        • The Hammer
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          #44
          Wladimir Klitschko would KO Joe Louis in an earlier round than Rocky Marciano and Max Schmelling did.

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          • Ryn0
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            #45
            Originally posted by potatoes
            Joe Louis out weighed Billy Conn by about 30 pounds.
            Billy Conn was a mover and fast, good defensive fighter he avoided Louis for 13 rounds and then got Ko'd when he tried to trade. Joe Louis is an aggresive fighter who looks for the knockout never had the best chin and defense. Wlad would be too big. You can use the Dempsey-Willard example but Willard was never on the level in terms of skill that Dempsey was.

            Wlad has a huge size advantage and is skilled enough to be compared to Louis.

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              #46
              Originally posted by Ryn0
              Louis weighed like what 200lbs in his prime, Wlad would outweigh him by 30 lbs! Louis would lose the difference in size is much to big. In a P4P sense Louis would KO Wlad though.
              More than 30 lbs, Wlad is close to 250.

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              • potatoes
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                #47
                Originally posted by Ryn0
                Billy Conn was a mover and fast, good defensive fighter he avoided Louis for 13 rounds and then got Ko'd when he tried to trade. Joe Louis is an aggresive fighter who looks for the knockout never had the best chin and defense. Wlad would be too big. You can use the Dempsey-Willard example but Willard was never on the level in terms of skill that Dempsey was.

                Wlad has a huge size advantage and is skilled enough to be compared to Louis.

                Ok, lets assume that is all true. Have you noticed that Klitschko likes to paw the jab when an opponent won't stand still? Unlike Muhammad Ali and Larry Holmes he can not jab on the fly. Louis would soon enough pick on this then time an overhand right. He has done it many times, there is no reason he couldn't do it to an over sized Ukrainian. That is only one of the flaws in Klitschko's style that Louis could exploit. Do you needsomebody to tell you about the rest?

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                • grant555
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                  #48
                  Joe Louis in his prime would be Wlad. Ali in his prime would beat any of them. No doubt.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Emanuel Steward
                    While I don't think they are overrated, it's hard to compare them to nowadays because heavyweights are so big now. I'm honestly wondering how long it will take for a 230lbs division to be introduced....

                    My friends recently went to a dinner show with some famous boxers and Frazier was one of them... he had his picture taken with them and he is absolutely tiny. I mean sure, him and Ali went to war 3 times but Vitali and Wlad would murder him inside 1.

                    I mean look at Vitali and Wlad.... Foreman was big... these guys are comething else.

                    Also shout out to Tyson Fury... he's a gangly fellow but he is what 18 stone lol?
                    they're big, but not as strong, as fast or as durable as the old heavies
                    so i gotta give it to louis, by ko

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                      #50
                      Originally posted by FreshPrince
                      More than 30 lbs, Wlad is close to 250.
                      Wladimir usually weighs around 240 lbs. Against Ibragimov he was 238.



                      His opponent was little more than a punching bag (a huge one at that, 6'5, 255 lbs) but I believe Joe Louis was at his best here. He weighed 208 lbs.
                      Last edited by TheGreatA; 02-15-2009, 04:00 PM.

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