Hatton is a Very Tough Fight For Pacquiao, Says Sulaiman

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    #31
    In order for hatton to negate pacquiao's speed is to wrestle him... That's also the way he fight and won the biggest fight of his life which is with tyuzu... If hatton will not use the old style he had before and he will try to stand toe to toe with pacquiao,then it's game over for him... If he can do that again then it would be a war and the best man will win surely...

    JMM is different with hatton... JMM is a sharp shooter counter-puncher, so it is unjust to compare JMM to hatton... Skill wise, JMM is one of the best... For me JMM is better than Hatton in terms of skill but in terms of power i think hatton has the edge... So if ever hatton can deliver a clear strong body punch then he might win if pacquiao can't take those shots...

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    • MACAQUEINBLACK
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      #32
      Originally posted by S a m u r a i
      Hatton, on the other hand, was knocked out only just over a year ago by a punch that didn't even look very hard. It was just well-timed and precise.
      Hatton took a lot of shots before that. And Floyd, contrary to some of what you may hear about Floyd being protected by Cortez, had to match Hatton for strength and dirty tricks inside, had to wear Hatton down and frustrate him, before he could start really working him over. I think that clinical beating in those later rounds (8, 8 and 10) took something out of Hatton and likely effected his resistance to punishment. That's why I give Pac such a solid shot. That, and the style that would allow Ricky to defeat Pac is the style that Mayweather Sr. seems to be leading him away from.

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      • S A M U R A I
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        #33
        Originally posted by Man In Black
        Hatton took a lot of shots before that.
        That's exactly what I was saying in my previous post (to GRUSTLER) when talking about Pacquiao's power. Floyd's KO came from accumulation, and then good timing and precision. At that point in the fight, Hatton was worn down and it didn't take a huge power punch to knock him out.

        To clarify, Pacquiao doesn't need to be a devastating power puncher to KO Hatton, he needs to have the right strategy and enough pop to end it, if he's looking for a KO.

        PS: Very good point about Mayweather Sr. leading Ricky away from the style that could possibly beat Pac.



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          #34
          Originally posted by GRUSTLER
          Pacquiao is an offensive fighter but sometimes has trouble with his opponent if they do not engage him. In the 2nd JMM fight Pacquiao didn't even know how to get inside Marquez's zone once Marquez started boxing. If you don't take the fight to Manny then he is hesitant to engage. He was swinging with his eyes closed at times? When Pacquiao is in the ring with a tough fighter it is not as easy as people would think. Hatton is going to make it difficult for him TRUST.
          nah...

          pac is at his best when he's the one initiating the engagement.

          JMM is the natural antithesis to pac's style, that's why he gives pac problems, but there are few boxers in all of boxing that can counterpunch like marquez. I seriously doubt floyd sr. can turn hatton into marquez.

          a tough fighter is not going to present any problems for pac.

          what will make hatton difficult for pac is that hatton will wrestle and smother pac's punches as well as his own. it will be an ugly fight for sure, especially once hatton realizes he cant deal with the speed. holding and clinching will be hatton's only defense against pac's blazing speed. because hatton is stronger and bigger than pac he will muscle pac around.

          in a fair fight with a fair ref, hatton gets KTFO. but if hatton is allowed to hold and hit, its over for pac.

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            #35
            Originally posted by S a m u r a i
            That's exactly what I was saying in my previous post (to GRUSTLER) when talking about Pacquiao's power. Floyd's KO came from accumulation, and then good timing and precision. At that point in the fight, Hatton was worn down and it didn't take a huge power punch to knock him out.

            To clarify, Pacquiao doesn't need to be a devastating power puncher to KO Hatton, he needs to have the right strategy and enough pop to end it, if he's looking for a KO.

            PS: Very good point about Mayweather Sr. leading Ricky away from the style that could possibly beat Pac.
            thats a good point, but i also want to point out that hatton thought he was way behind on points and had to go for the KO to win.

            hatton may have learned since the floyd fight to take it easy and avoid going out on his shield.

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              #36
              Ricky needs to be his old overtly aggressive self from the off. If he begins steadily, trying to get the measure of Pac in a bid to show 'patience' and work his way in (like he appeared to do with Paulie), I see him getting diced up and being forced to backslide into the old habits quick. If Paul can cause Hatton's face to puff up after one round, Pac can do it worse. How Hatton recovers from a bad start might depend on how bad Pac gets to him early and how much Hatton's capacity for absorbing punishment has diminished.

              What the Pullcounter guy said...Hatton's gonna need to be able to maul Pac and rough him up.

              Lot of people claimed Ricky would be too big, too strong for Floyd. Turned out not to be the case...Floyd had the kind of physical strength you can't legislate for, kind that comes from a supreme approach to overall conditioning and living the life. Pac has a not dissimilar approach to his conditioning and strength disciplines...anybody think he can surprise a few people and match Hatton for physical strength inside? Even if so, matching Ricky in the wiles and trickery of 'inside' (dirty) fighting might be a strain on his versatility.

              If Hatton can get into his hit and maul groove...I'm tempted to agree with Pullcounter, he'll overwhelm Pac.


              Ifs and buts.

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                #37
                Originally posted by FasTHarD
                Are you serious about your knowledge mate? Did you watch Hatton/Lazcano fight? A lightweight almost Knock Hatton out...

                Oh did i hear Castillo? Castillo is far his best when Hatton fought him OK?
                Pacquiao has been KO'd before & rocked on his feet by flush shots from lesser punchers than Hatton, so what's your point? A fighter can get dazed at anytime. I'm not trying to sell anybody on Hatton's chances on winning. The only thing I'm saying is that Pacquiao is going to be in for a fight & I have a feeling after the fight people will be tongue tied. If Pacquiao dominates Hatton, I will be the first on here to admit I was wrong but I'm just not seeing it. I have a feeling the fight can go either way.

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                  #38
                  It can definitely go either way, G.

                  I won't be tongue-tied if Hatton wins, btw, I'll give respect where it's due. I only hope he doesn't use any dirty tactics, elbows and such, cause this will somewhat tarnish the victory.



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                    #39
                    what d' hell r u talking men??????do u know boxing????????Sh******TTT!!!!!

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by GRUSTLER
                      Pacquiao has been KO'd before & rocked on his feet by flush shots from lesser punchers than Hatton, so what's your point? A fighter can get dazed at anytime. I'm not trying to sell anybody on Hatton's chances on winning. The only thing I'm saying is that Pacquiao is going to be in for a fight & I have a feeling after the fight people will be tongue tied. If Pacquiao dominates Hatton, I will be the first on here to admit I was wrong but I'm just not seeing it. I have a feeling the fight can go either way.
                      of course that's what we've all been saying... there's 2 ways this fight can go down.

                      1) hatton boxes and gets KTFO

                      2) hatton mauls and wins a SD

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