Racial pride in Boxing good or bad?

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  • -MAKAVELLI-
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    #31
    Originally posted by ..Calderon...
    RPIDE should be kept for things that you have to achieve/accomplish.


    so you cant be proud when your son scores 3 TDs in a game because YOU weren't the one that accomplished it?

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    • S A M U R A I
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      #32
      Originally posted by pelonxsoldier28
      you're talking about straight racism. pride and being proud in the right way is good. but i ain't gonna jump on some fighters bandwagon, just cause he/she is the same race as myself. nor would i take credit for a fighters success soley because of same race.
      No. "Racial pride" is just a transparent disguise for racism. I'm not gonna piss around here and pretend it's OK. *******s get the boot from me. Simple.



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      • pelonxsoldier28
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        #33
        yea i think you jumped the gun, i did'nt say "racial pride",

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        • nathan_nall
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          #34
          Originally posted by ..Calderon...
          Forget sports. Racial PRIDE is wrong, period.

          You should never be PROUD of anything you don't have to ACCOMPLISH. You can be happy or even REALLY happy to see someone succeed if they have certain things in common with you or how you grow up. That's a natural. But to take pride in something that is essentially an accident is ******, IMO.

          In boxing, it happens more and it's pretty pathetic, really.
          Right on... If I choose to take pride in the color of my skin, shouldn't you have the right to degrade me because of the color of my skin? I think so... but I think the higher road is to teach ourselves to as a human race... IGNORE that there are different races. That means no more hating on others... and no more claiming to be a victim. We should support fighters because we like what they bring to the ring... regardless of what color they are or.... and pay close attention.... OR what continent they are from.

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            #35
            Originally posted by pelonxsoldier28
            i don't see anything wrong with being proud of people of your own race. just as long as you're not bashing other fighters because of theirs. don't mix up racism and being proud of your own race. i'm mexican american and am very peoud of my people, but i still root for fighters of diffrent races.
            most sensible post......

            Originally posted by ..Calderon...
            Proud, is something someone shouldn't be of something they didn't accomplish. What di dyou have to achieve in order to be Mexican American?

            You can be happy, but RPIDE should be kept for things that you have to achieve/accomplish.
            disagree. that's like saying black people shouldn't be proud of barack *****.

            i don't see anything wrong w/ identifying w/ someone and rooting for them based on their race. like dude said, it gets sketchy when you "don't root for someone" or put someone else down based on theirs.

            IMO it makes some boxing matches more interesting, it's good for the sport.

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              #36
              Originally posted by pelonxsoldier28
              yea i think you jumped the gun, i did'nt say "racial pride",
              I'm sorry, but racism, racial pride, even nationalism, all tend to slightly get under my skin. The thread is titled "Racial pride in boxing good or bad", so what I said is not entirely unfitting. I just don't understand your comment that "pride and being proud in the right way is good". I don't see how it's good.

              Not accusing you of being racist, btw. You have every right to be proud, but personally, I don't see any benefit to it whatsoever.



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              • S A M U R A I
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                #37
                Originally posted by tyde13
                disagree. that's like saying black people shouldn't be proud of barack *****.
                My point would be: how come the human race has gotten itself to the point where black people are proud of *****? This line of thinking merely exists because of overly-proud white people who caused black people to think this way. If it wasn't for racial pride in the first place, you wouldn't feel proud simply because black people have a black president. You wouldn't feel anything, because color would never be an issue. You should be proud of your president if he is a good leader who can do good for your country, not merely because he is black. Personally, I'd feel proud if he turns out to be a good president who can heal the countries wounds, I wouldn't care if he came from mars and had purple skin as long as he does good.

                I hope I'm making make sense here.



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                Last edited by S A M U R A I; 02-12-2009, 08:29 PM.

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                • lest26
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                  #38
                  if african americans didnt take pride in there race would they have ever overcome oppresion.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by lest26
                    if african americans didnt take pride in there race would they have ever overcome oppresion.
                    Of coarse they would.

                    It is more than likely a white man who has given black people racial equality, because i think its commonsense to suggest white people have generally been the people in the more privileged positions to give them that freedom.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by lest26
                      if african americans didnt take pride in there race would they have ever overcome oppresion.
                      This I agree with. Blacks have had to fight for their rights, but I always come back to the root: This only happened because of the opposite color's racial pride.



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