The Top 20 Greatest Super Middleweights of All-Time

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  • Grand Champ
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    #51
    To be honest I didn't expect to see Kessler on that list (And i'm a big Kessler fan) but after seing Jeff Lacy on the list, it was obvious it was just a list og BS

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    • IMDAZED
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      #52
      Originally posted by BatTheMan
      By that standard you should also put in that by the time Pavlik and Abraham hit their prime they'll be SMW's.
      Well they're pretty much already there, aren't they? Pavlik hasn't shown himself to be as good above 160 which is why he went back (his last two fights have been at 168). So maybe you mean Abraham?

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        #53
        Originally posted by IMDAZED
        Well they're pretty much already there, aren't they? Pavlik hasn't shown himself to be as good above 160 which is why he went back (his last two fights have been at 168). So maybe you mean Abraham?
        AA obviously has a history of weight problems. Pavlik did fight pretty good against Taylor IMO. As for Hopkins well... no shame in losing to a great fighter giving a career performance.

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          #54
          Originally posted by BatTheMan
          AA obviously has a history of weight problems. Pavlik did fight pretty good against Taylor IMO. As for Hopkins well... no shame in losing to a great fighter giving a career performance.
          Actually I thought the Taylor decision could have gone either way. Given what happened in their first fight, I think Pavlik looked MUCH worse. Anyway, he's gone back to 160 so you can forget that.

          We'll see what Abraham has at 168. In the meantime, maybe some of these champs will grow some balls and start making some meaningful fights in the division.

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            #55
            Originally posted by IMDAZED
            Actually I thought the Taylor decision could have gone either way. Given what happened in their first fight, I think Pavlik looked MUCH worse. Anyway, he's gone back to 160 so you can forget that.

            We'll see what Abraham has at 168. In the meantime, maybe some of these champs will grow some balls and start making some meaningful fights in the division.
            At least Froch and Taylor now has a go. Bute is licking his wounds, and Kessler.. No I will not debate him with you .

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              #56
              severely flawed formula.

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                #57
                Originally posted by BatTheMan
                At least Froch and Taylor now has a go. Bute is licking his wounds, and Kessler.. No I will not debate him with you .
                LOL.

                Believe me, I want to see Kessler in a meaningful fight as much as you do.

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                • dans
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                  #58
                  I've decided that I'm opposed to any list making or ATG decision making that is based on some random points system or formula. I bet someone could make a formula that would make Peter Manfredo the GOAT. It's just ******. Trusts your instincts boys, not some idiots ****** mathematical formula.

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                    #59
                    That is the worst list of anything I have ever seen in my life.

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by dans01234
                      I've decided that I'm opposed to any list making or ATG decision making that is based on some random points system or formula. I bet someone could make a formula that would make Peter Manfredo the GOAT. It's just ******. Trusts your instincts boys, not some idiots ****** mathematical formula.

                      Agreed. This is BOXING.

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