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  • #21
    Originally posted by 2501 View Post
    1. You are forgetting who Pacquiao was supposed to be going into the Diaz and DLH fight.

    One dimensional. Only weapon being the left hand. Not ring smart. Those are phrases thrown around when describing Pac going into those fights. Sure, Diaz was a complete push over for Pac, but at the same time, he dominated Diaz in a manner that WAS NOT expected. He bobbed, he weaved, he picked his spots and dominated with combination punching. For someone being "one dimensional", he sure utilized BOTH hands AND improved his defense. I mean, seriously, who thought Manny would be UNTOUCHED as he was through out the whole fight?

    The same **** applies to DLH. It doesnt matter if he was supposedly weight drained or whatever. Manny's skillset was supposed to allow DLH to go to work, not his physical ability. Manny OUTBOXED DLH. Normally, when someone is "weight drained", they don't get outboxed, they get physically dominated. Manny did physically dominate DLH, but by BOXING from the outside. That wasn't supposed to happen.

    2. Manny keeps improving each fight for a "one dimensional" fighter where as Hatton hasn't shown much improvement at all

    Mayweather exposed one of Hatton's major defensive Flaws. He's prone to quick shots, especially quick lefts. After he got knocked out by Mayweather, he fought an old, washed up, RETIRED Lascano. Lascano tagged his ass with a left many times and was on the verge of a KO if only Lascano was capable of finishing the job.

    What did this show?

    That Hatton truly hasn't improved on his defense. Manny was supposed to do to Juan Lascano what Pacquiao did to Diaz and DLH. He didn't. He almost got KO'd. Moving on to the Malignaggi fight, Hatton did show some OFFENSIVE improvement, but where was the DEFENSIVE improvement? If you watch the fight, Paulie landed lefts when Hatton would come in for the attack, but we're talking Eggshell hands Malignaggi over here. Hatton wasn't about to be hurt by the lack of power Malignaggi contained.

    Pacquiao is faster than Malignaggi, more powerful than Malignaggi.

    Hatton does his best work on the inside. When have we EVER seen Pacquiao allow ANYONE to work inside? Do we really think Pacquiao will be stationary through out the fight inviting Hatton to his body?

    Lets seriously think about it. Who's faster to the draw? What's REALLY gonna stop PAcquiao from attacking from the outside and moving out the way? Hatton's "jab"?

    Or is it Hatton face?

    From their recents previous fights, this is what can be seen:

    Hatton has yet to improve on his defense though his offense has gotten a little tighter

    Pacquioa has improved his versatility both offensively and defensive;y.

    Just because Floyd chose Hatton doesn't mean Hatton is some beast that only Floyd can tame. Hatton is no JMM and Pacquiao is a whole different animal.
    That exactly how I see it!!! You nailed it My Man!!!!

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    • #22
      Originally posted by 2501 View Post
      1. You are forgetting who Pacquiao was supposed to be going into the Diaz and DLH fight.

      One dimensional. Only weapon being the left hand. Not ring smart. Those are phrases thrown around when describing Pac going into those fights. Sure, Diaz was a complete push over for Pac, but at the same time, he dominated Diaz in a manner that WAS NOT expected. He bobbed, he weaved, he picked his spots and dominated with combination punching. For someone being "one dimensional", he sure utilized BOTH hands AND improved his defense. I mean, seriously, who thought Manny would be UNTOUCHED as he was through out the whole fight?

      The same **** applies to DLH. It doesnt matter if he was supposedly weight drained or whatever. Manny's skillset was supposed to allow DLH to go to work, not his physical ability. Manny OUTBOXED DLH. Normally, when someone is "weight drained", they don't get outboxed, they get physically dominated. Manny did physically dominate DLH, but by BOXING from the outside. That wasn't supposed to happen.

      2. Manny keeps improving each fight for a "one dimensional" fighter where as Hatton hasn't shown much improvement at all

      Mayweather exposed one of Hatton's major defensive Flaws. He's prone to quick shots, especially quick lefts. After he got knocked out by Mayweather, he fought an old, washed up, RETIRED Lascano. Lascano tagged his ass with a left many times and was on the verge of a KO if only Lascano was capable of finishing the job.

      What did this show?

      That Hatton truly hasn't improved on his defense. Manny was supposed to do to Juan Lascano what Pacquiao did to Diaz and DLH. He didn't. He almost got KO'd. Moving on to the Malignaggi fight, Hatton did show some OFFENSIVE improvement, but where was the DEFENSIVE improvement? If you watch the fight, Paulie landed lefts when Hatton would come in for the attack, but we're talking Eggshell hands Malignaggi over here. Hatton wasn't about to be hurt by the lack of power Malignaggi contained.

      Pacquiao is faster than Malignaggi, more powerful than Malignaggi.

      Hatton does his best work on the inside. When have we EVER seen Pacquiao allow ANYONE to work inside? Do we really think Pacquiao will be stationary through out the fight inviting Hatton to his body?

      Lets seriously think about it. Who's faster to the draw? What's REALLY gonna stop PAcquiao from attacking from the outside and moving out the way? Hatton's "jab"?

      Or is it Hatton face?

      From their recents previous fights, this is what can be seen:

      Hatton has yet to improve on his defense though his offense has gotten a little tighter

      Pacquioa has improved his versatility both offensively and defensive;y.

      Just because Floyd chose Hatton doesn't mean Hatton is some beast that only Floyd can tame. Hatton is no JMM and Pacquiao is a whole different animal.

      Excellent post!

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      • #23
        Stylistically, Pacquiao gives Hatton problems, Pacquiao has shown that his speed is still there at 135 and above, his power is still very good at 135 and above as well.

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        • #24
          Originally posted by 2501 View Post
          1. You are forgetting who Pacquiao was supposed to be going into the Diaz and DLH fight.

          One dimensional. Only weapon being the left hand. Not ring smart. Those are phrases thrown around when describing Pac going into those fights. Sure, Diaz was a complete push over for Pac, but at the same time, he dominated Diaz in a manner that WAS NOT expected. He bobbed, he weaved, he picked his spots and dominated with combination punching. For someone being "one dimensional", he sure utilized BOTH hands AND improved his defense. I mean, seriously, who thought Manny would be UNTOUCHED as he was through out the whole fight?

          The same **** applies to DLH. It doesnt matter if he was supposedly weight drained or whatever. Manny's skillset was supposed to allow DLH to go to work, not his physical ability. Manny OUTBOXED DLH. Normally, when someone is "weight drained", they don't get outboxed, they get physically dominated. Manny did physically dominate DLH, but by BOXING from the outside. That wasn't supposed to happen.

          2. Manny keeps improving each fight for a "one dimensional" fighter where as Hatton hasn't shown much improvement at all

          Mayweather exposed one of Hatton's major defensive Flaws. He's prone to quick shots, especially quick lefts. After he got knocked out by Mayweather, he fought an old, washed up, RETIRED Lascano. Lascano tagged his ass with a left many times and was on the verge of a KO if only Lascano was capable of finishing the job.

          What did this show?

          That Hatton truly hasn't improved on his defense. Manny was supposed to do to Juan Lascano what Pacquiao did to Diaz and DLH. He didn't. He almost got KO'd. Moving on to the Malignaggi fight, Hatton did show some OFFENSIVE improvement, but where was the DEFENSIVE improvement? If you watch the fight, Paulie landed lefts when Hatton would come in for the attack, but we're talking Eggshell hands Malignaggi over here. Hatton wasn't about to be hurt by the lack of power Malignaggi contained.

          Pacquiao is faster than Malignaggi, more powerful than Malignaggi.

          Hatton does his best work on the inside. When have we EVER seen Pacquiao allow ANYONE to work inside? Do we really think Pacquiao will be stationary through out the fight inviting Hatton to his body?

          Lets seriously think about it. Who's faster to the draw? What's REALLY gonna stop PAcquiao from attacking from the outside and moving out the way? Hatton's "jab"?

          Or is it Hatton face?

          From their recents previous fights, this is what can be seen:

          Hatton has yet to improve on his defense though his offense has gotten a little tighter

          Pacquioa has improved his versatility both offensively and defensive;y.

          Just because Floyd chose Hatton doesn't mean Hatton is some beast that only Floyd can tame. Hatton is no JMM and Pacquiao is a whole different animal.


          what a pac nuthugger.....

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          • #25
            Originally posted by nycbigdogII View Post
            what a pac nuthugger.....
            exactly... get off pac's nuts 2501. you disgust me.

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            • #26
              Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
              Diaz was slow and over matched.

              Oscar was a zombie...an absolute weight drained skelton with no power or stamina.

              So why in Gods name do peope think Pac will destroy a guy who has never lost a fight at 140...at a weight where Pacs never been.

              Hes never taken 140 pound punches....how will he deal with the constant pressure??..the body shots?/..the wrestling??..the strength???...Sr. in the corner??

              I think Pac will be stopped by Hatton....in 8 rounds or so.
              What kind of a buffoon bases their assessment of Pacquiao solely on his last two fights?



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              • #27
                Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                Diaz was slow and over matched.

                Oscar was a zombie...an absolute weight drained skelton with no power or stamina.

                So why in Gods name do peope think Pac will destroy a guy who has never lost a fight at 140...at a weight where Pacs never been.

                Hes never taken 140 pound punches....how will he deal with the constant pressure??..the body shots?/..the wrestling??..the strength???...Sr. in the corner??

                I think Pac will be stopped by Hatton....in 8 rounds or so.
                Those fights never makes me think that Pac could beat the **** out of Ricky but the way Pac improves this days.. He just been a complete fighter since from brawler to boxer... Those crazy angles plus the flash left will put the lights off from Ricky...

                My thoughts on this fight:
                Pac TKO/KO Hatton before round 6...

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by King Burner II View Post
                  Diaz was slow and over matched.

                  Oscar was a zombie...an absolute weight drained skelton with no power or stamina.

                  So why in Gods name do peope think Pac will destroy a guy who has never lost a fight at 140...at a weight where Pacs never been.

                  Hes never taken 140 pound punches....how will he deal with the constant pressure??..the body shots?/..the wrestling??..the strength???...Sr. in the corner??

                  I think Pac will be stopped by Hatton....in 8 rounds or so.
                  for the simple fact that hattons one loss was so one sided that u can say he was exposed....... hatton does have more of a shot than ppl will admit.... but he still loses

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by 2501 View Post
                    1. You are forgetting who Pacquiao was supposed to be going into the Diaz and DLH fight.

                    One dimensional. Only weapon being the left hand. Not ring smart. Those are phrases thrown around when describing Pac going into those fights. Sure, Diaz was a complete push over for Pac, but at the same time, he dominated Diaz in a manner that WAS NOT expected. He bobbed, he weaved, he picked his spots and dominated with combination punching. For someone being "one dimensional", he sure utilized BOTH hands AND improved his defense. I mean, seriously, who thought Manny would be UNTOUCHED as he was through out the whole fight?

                    The same **** applies to DLH. It doesnt matter if he was supposedly weight drained or whatever. Manny's skillset was supposed to allow DLH to go to work, not his physical ability. Manny OUTBOXED DLH. Normally, when someone is "weight drained", they don't get outboxed, they get physically dominated. Manny did physically dominate DLH, but by BOXING from the outside. That wasn't supposed to happen.

                    2. Manny keeps improving each fight for a "one dimensional" fighter where as Hatton hasn't shown much improvement at all

                    Mayweather exposed one of Hatton's major defensive Flaws. He's prone to quick shots, especially quick lefts. After he got knocked out by Mayweather, he fought an old, washed up, RETIRED Lascano. Lascano tagged his ass with a left many times and was on the verge of a KO if only Lascano was capable of finishing the job.

                    What did this show?

                    That Hatton truly hasn't improved on his defense. Manny was supposed to do to Juan Lascano what Pacquiao did to Diaz and DLH. He didn't. He almost got KO'd. Moving on to the Malignaggi fight, Hatton did show some OFFENSIVE improvement, but where was the DEFENSIVE improvement? If you watch the fight, Paulie landed lefts when Hatton would come in for the attack, but we're talking Eggshell hands Malignaggi over here. Hatton wasn't about to be hurt by the lack of power Malignaggi contained.

                    Pacquiao is faster than Malignaggi, more powerful than Malignaggi.

                    Hatton does his best work on the inside. When have we EVER seen Pacquiao allow ANYONE to work inside? Do we really think Pacquiao will be stationary through out the fight inviting Hatton to his body?

                    Lets seriously think about it. Who's faster to the draw? What's REALLY gonna stop PAcquiao from attacking from the outside and moving out the way? Hatton's "jab"?

                    Or is it Hatton face?

                    From their recents previous fights, this is what can be seen:

                    Hatton has yet to improve on his defense though his offense has gotten a little tighter

                    Pacquioa has improved his versatility both offensively and defensive;y.

                    Just because Floyd chose Hatton doesn't mean Hatton is some beast that only Floyd can tame. Hatton is no JMM and Pacquiao is a whole different animal.
                    Even though you hate Pac on your previous posts these one is a great post... Cheers

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
                      for the simple fact that hattons one loss was so one sided that u can say he was exposed....... hatton does have more of a shot than ppl will admit.... but he still loses
                      I thought the fight was very competitive in the early to mid rounds tbh mate. Mayweather pulled away in the later rounds as his pot-shotting hit and hold technique paid off.

                      I can't wait for this fight, I think it can go either way come fight night, and petty arguements on here aren't go to change that!

                      I'm out.

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