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  • nathan_nall
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    #31
    Originally posted by Left2body
    Dude educate yourself. Romans had cement that would harden under-water without having to "air out" as you say. We have it today also it's called hydraulic cement.

    Hydraulic plaster can also by definition harden under water. Educate yourself please before you start spewing misinformation.
    Educate myself? Like you are the ****ing authority on the subject. I do thank you for reading my post. You had to have read the entire post and understood it before you googled cement that would set underwater. You were lead to Wikipedia, where you read that Romans first pioneered the mass use of cement. Perhaps you even read the Encyclopedia Britanica entry on Hydraulic Cements. You were right about one thing, there are cements that will set underwater. So what I should have said, is there is no substance that, AFTER coming in contact with water, will set during the shourt course of a boxing match while constantly being compressed as a result of frequent punches.

    But, it would seem that we BOTH need to educate ourselves. The Romans never had a cement that would set underwater. You merely saw that reference on the same page as the description of modern day cement. They used a combination of clay and volcano ash that, when mixed with water, would set once allowed to dry and "air out" as I originally stated.

    Cement and plaster are two entirely different materials, composed of different substances. Plaster, alone, most definately does not set under water. It will attempt to harden, but becomes very brittle and immediately begins to disolve. A group of scientist and conservasionists were able to get plaster to set under water, but only after combining different epoxy compounds and after several attempts conducted in a labaratory (http://www.diveturkey.com/inaturkey/lab/peachey2.htm).

    So, I admit, I was wrong. There are certain cement mixtures that will solidify if left untouched and un******ed, underwater. Plaster, mixed with slow-viscocity expoxies, will set in wet areas... and over a 24-48 hour period, will even set underwater, though it becomes extremely brittle and the process of disolving begins immediately.

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    • Easy-E
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      #32
      Originally posted by 817boy
      So why so much hate for Marg?

      are you a Cotto fan
      or
      do you not like Mexicans cuz you got your a$$ kicked by a Mexican
      cause the dude is a ****ing cheater you moron.

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      • Left2body
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        #33
        Originally posted by nathan_nall
        Educate myself? Like you are the ****ing authority on the subject. I do thank you for reading my post. You had to have read the entire post and understood it before you googled cement that would set underwater. You were lead to Wikipedia, where you read that Romans first pioneered the mass use of cement. Perhaps you even read the Encyclopedia Britanica entry on Hydraulic Cements. You were right about one thing, there are cements that will set underwater. So what I should have said, is there is no substance that, AFTER coming in contact with water, will set during the shourt course of a boxing match while constantly being compressed as a result of frequent punches.

        But, it would seem that we BOTH need to educate ourselves. The Romans never had a cement that would set underwater. You merely saw that reference on the same page as the description of modern day cement. They used a combination of clay and volcano ash that, when mixed with water, would set once allowed to dry and "air out" as I originally stated.

        Cement and plaster are two entirely different materials, composed of different substances. Plaster, alone, most definately does not set under water. It will attempt to harden, but becomes very brittle and immediately begins to disolve. A group of scientist and conservasionists were able to get plaster to set under water, but only after combining different epoxy compounds and after several attempts conducted in a labaratory (http://www.diveturkey.com/inaturkey/lab/peachey2.htm).

        So, I admit, I was wrong. There are certain cement mixtures that will solidify if left untouched and un******ed, underwater. Plaster, mixed with slow-viscocity expoxies, will set in wet areas... and over a 24-48 hour period, will even set underwater, though it becomes extremely brittle and the process of disolving begins immediately.
        Well I guess a lot of professors are wrong then because I learned it in school. Anyway here is are a couple of links:

        A University of Colorado at Boulder professor and his colleagues have taken a page from the writings of an ancient Roman architect and built an underwater concrete pier in the manner of those set in the Mediterranean Sea 2,000 years ago.




        Anyway, I know that cement/concrete are different than plaster but there is also hydraulic plaster that can also harden underwater.

        I think though that we wont know what the hell the thing is until March.

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          #34
          the sad thing about all this is.....Marg DID do the hard trainin' and he DID take a fair share of hard punches.....all is for nothing now!......this loaded wraps **** is a life long scar and now his greatest win will ALWAYS be questioned....I hope he saved some money because times are gonna get hard for dude

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          • nathan_nall
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            #35
            Originally posted by Easy-E
            cause the dude is a ****ing cheater you moron.
            Most of the hate was there beforehand. Now there is just a reason to put behind it. That fight is something that will be talked about for decades. I don't think we even see the importance of it. Toni, caught with illegal wraps moments before the opening bell... Mosley, stepping into the ring doing his best to have a clear head while district attorneys are slaving away at building a case against him and countless others caught up in the Balco scandal.

            These two guys meeting in the ring, at that time, under those circumstances... represent everything good... and bad... in the sport.

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              #36
              Originally posted by 817boy
              So why so much hate for Marg?

              are you a Cotto fan
              or
              do you not like Mexicans cuz you got your a$$ kicked by a Mexican
              you're not helping yourself man. It's not about hating all Mexicans - stop the madness. Tons of Cotto fans gave Tony his props after the July fight - we thought he won fair and square. Now because of Margarito's actions, it places a huge ? on that win, and if you were objective - you would recognize that like many Margarito fans on this site.

              If you cared about respect for the sport and all the great Mexican fighters who are worthy of praise - then you'd understand Cotto didn't get beat by a Mexican; he got beat by an insecure fighter who dishonored you and all the great Mexican fans/fighters.
              Last edited by Boricua6; 02-12-2009, 10:04 PM.

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              • nathan_nall
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                #37
                Originally posted by Left2body
                Well I guess a lot of professors are wrong then because I learned it in school. Anyway here is are a couple of links:

                A University of Colorado at Boulder professor and his colleagues have taken a page from the writings of an ancient Roman architect and built an underwater concrete pier in the manner of those set in the Mediterranean Sea 2,000 years ago.




                Anyway, I know that cement/concrete are different than plaster but there is also hydraulic plaster that can also harden underwater.

                I think though that we wont know what the hell the thing is until March.
                You're right. I don't know man. Either way, its not good. I guess more than anything I want people to just talk about something else. I almost wish someone else would bring a gun into the ring, just so we can start talking about something else.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by nathan_nall
                  Most of the hate was there beforehand. Now there is just a reason to put behind it. .




                  DING DING DING!!!




                  we have a winner

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                  • Left2body
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by nathan_nall
                    You're right. I don't know man. Either way, its not good. I guess more than anything I want people to just talk about something else. I almost wish someone else would bring a gun into the ring, just so we can start talking about something else.
                    Hahaha, this **** is hard on the boards because there isn't a big fight coming up. Wait till Hatton-Pacquiao nears then you'll be sick of all the Pac-Hatton threads......haha.

                    After that fight there are going to be 5k threads about why Hatton/Pac is an ATG and which past fighters they would've beaten or got beat by. Its cyclical.

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                    • nathan_nall
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Makavelli
                      DING DING DING!!!




                      we have a winner
                      Forgive me if I'm a little lost... but.... huh?

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