If anyone has Hatton ahead of Darchinyan on their P4P list (i.e. Ring Magazine)...

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  • KostyaTszyu44
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    #41
    Originally posted by DiegoFuego
    Hatton is way better than Vic. Vic has no skill whatsoever, Hatton at least has a little
    no way man vics skill has improved heaps

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    • Dan...
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      #42
      Originally posted by theghost#1
      What are you serious. Hatton making a legend quit on his stool and unifying the JWW division, and then winning a title at WW, is not as good as Vic beating Mijares. Insane.
      Hatton beat a diminished Kostya quite a while ago and since then got stopped in his only fight with an elite, top level fighter.

      Ricky's achievements since that win do not come close to Vic stopping Cristian and unifying his division, no.

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      • The C.E.O.
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        #43
        Originally posted by S a m u r a i
        My friend, nobody cares. You should take your trolling elsewhere, stop posting garbage, and cluttering up the board with poo.
        You care....enough to bad K me and pop up here and there replying to me with your corny bull****....

        This is what it's all about....I never call you out....I state my opinion...you don't like what I have to say...it hurts you...deep inside.

        If you were secure in your beliefs, you wouldn't even respond...but you've got that immature, nationalistic, nuthugging gene in you and just can't help it...you're compelled to defend someone you care for...

        Meaning your unconfident and unobjective....

        Do you think I'd give 2 ****s if someone had said, "If anyone has Mayweather ahead of Pacquiao in their P4P list, they're an idiot..."....Helllll no....because I don't love ANY fighter and am confident in my experienced and unbiased perception...

        My only hope is that you and the other garbage fans from around your way will grow up and evolve into quality Boxing fans....and not just simply remain fighter fans....it's a longshot...but I still hope for it...for the benefit of the sport.

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        • S A M U R A I
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          #44
          *yawn*

          So I'm nationalistic? Do you realize where I'm originally from? I was born in the US. Have you even read my anti-nationalist posts? If so, then you should know that I cannot stand nationalism. In my opinion, it is pretty much one step away from racism, and I don't play that ****, homeslice.

          And way to go, accusing me all the things that exactly sum you up: Nationalistic, extremely biased and seemingly very insecure. You have openly hated on British and European fighters while defending the USA. Open your tiny little mind for a change, my friend.

          By the way, I know for a fact I hurt you. If I hadn't, you wouldn't keep on stalking me, Mr. ******* Bully Boy. Go find something constructive to do, FFS. And stay the **** out my path from now on.

          My final reply before I report your crap to a moderator: You are a troll who offers nothing constructive to the forums, you have only ever offered negativity and bad vibes. Nobody here wants to read your garbage. The sooner you get this into your thick skull, the better it will be for the rest of the members of the board.

          I have work to do. Bye.



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          • Pullcounter
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            #45
            Originally posted by danc1984
            Hatton beat a diminished Kostya quite a while ago and since then got stopped in his only fight with an elite, top level fighter.

            Ricky's achievements since that win do not come close to Vic stopping Cristian and unifying his division, no.
            well, hatton is the lineal champ at 140... but mijares was prime and tszyu wasnt.

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            • Zocalo
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              #46
              Vic has a very good case with his recent victories.

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              • Puntoyhauf
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                #47
                Originally posted by The C.E.O.
                How dumb and bitter are you to come at me with such a self incriminating statement?



                Let me get this straight...you joined this site the same month as I did last year and you have 5000+ posts....and you're saying I'M taking Boxing forums seriously....LOL!!

                Boxing message boards are obviously YOUR #1 priority...seeing how you overposted at ESB, got Owned by me during Hatton-Mayweather, ended up getting banned, and started posting your same old bull**** here....

                so just like I told you in a PM after you hit me with that meaningless bad karma once you saw my name...

                I am now OFFICIALLY....your E-Father.
                Originally posted by S a m u r a i
                I'm bitter? Yeah right! take a look in the mirror, G. I'm having fun bro. Unfortunately, you don't don't seem to know the meaning of the word.

                Yeah, I post for fun, not to try and be superior to someone and "own" them.

                Boxing boards are not my #1 priority at all. I'm a musician, so that comes first. I'm also a web designer who works from home and I run various websites. I get lots of free time to be here, so why not? I work at my own pace.

                Yup, I got banned from that ****ty site ESB for simply mentioning BoxingScene. How pathetic is that? I'm glad I'm not there anymore, this board is better.

                For some reason you think I'm a Hatton fan. Ummm, not really. Hatton is OK man, nothing wrong with him. Only reason I rooted for him though is because I don't like Mayweather. There's nothing wrong with being a fan of any fighter. People are free to like who they want and shouldn't be criticized for it. You, on the other hand, are a ******* who gets on people's **** by constantly trying to force your small-minded opinion down people's throats. I mean, how sad do you really have to be to think you are superior over someone else because they like a certain fighter? It's amazing man. Live and let live is what I say.

                Don't PM me, btw. I can guarantee you I will throw it straight in the trash and not even read it.

                There's not much more I can add except to suggest you get a girlfriend. Hopefully you don't reproduce though.

                Don't forget to wear a condom.

                Later Adolf.
                I really love seeing arguements like these... there are tons in these forum.
                If somebody just takes time reading this kind of posts they'll learn a lot.

                Originally posted by theghost#1
                What are you serious. Hatton making a legend quit on his stool and unifying the JWW division, and then winning a title at WW, is not as good as Vic beating Mijares. Insane.
                Knowing that Hatton was undefeated then from fighting what class of fighters? And having Darchinyan coming back after losing to Nonito Donaire in one of the brutal knock-outs I've seen. Beating champions dominantly and winning belts again is far more bigger that the Hatton win over Kostya.

                Originally posted by The C.E.O.
                You care....enough to bad K me and pop up here and there replying to me with your corny bull****....

                This is what it's all about....I never call you out....I state my opinion...you don't like what I have to say...it hurts you...deep inside.

                If you were secure in your beliefs, you wouldn't even respond...but you've got that immature, nationalistic, nuthugging gene in you and just can't help it...you're compelled to defend someone you care for...

                Meaning your unconfident and unobjective....

                Do you think I'd give 2 ****s if someone had said, "If anyone has Mayweather ahead of Pacquiao in their P4P list, they're an idiot..."....Helllll no....because I don't love ANY fighter and am confident in my experienced and unbiased perception...

                My only hope is that you and the other garbage fans from around your way will grow up and evolve into quality Boxing fans....and not just simply remain fighter fans....it's a longshot...but I still hope for it...for the benefit of the sport.
                I have Darchinyan on P4P above Hatton...(but not above Calderon)
                I don't really like Darchinyan... reminds me of Floyd Jr.'s trashtalking but even worst. I like Hatton better as a person, his humility and respect for his fellow fighters is laudable. But them as fighters, I rank Vic a step higher than Ricky. IMO

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                • DarchinyFAN
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                  #48
                  They are in about the same area IMO

                  Darchinyan has the better recent/current run
                  Arce, Mijares, Kirilov > Lazcano, Malignaggi

                  Hatton has the better top win
                  Tszyu > Mijares

                  Overall top 5 wins are similar
                  Mijares, Pacheco, Arce, Kirilov, Gabi = Tszyu, Collazo, Lazcano, Urango, Malginaggi (Castillo was burnt out)

                  Both had their single loss come in embarassing fashion

                  Hatton eating corner vs Mayweather = Darchinyan going down so hard he didn't remember vs Donaire.
                  But Hatton's came against a higher quality opponent.

                  Its pretty close, but since Darchinyan is currently on the better roll, I give him the edge.

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                  • theghost#1
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by danc1984
                    Hatton beat a diminished Kostya quite a while ago and since then got stopped in his only fight with an elite, top level fighter.

                    Ricky's achievements since that win do not come close to Vic stopping Cristian and unifying his division, no.
                    diminished Kt my ass he hadn't lost a fight in 8 years, and was coming off the wins against Judah and Mitchell not to mention KT was rated #3 by ring magazine. biggest diff is Ricky lost Mayweather and Vic lost Donaire. Ricky has fought and beat better comp. Don't underrate Hatton.

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                    • asero831
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                      #50
                      My personal p4p

                      1. Manny Pacquiao
                      2. Juan Manuel Marquez
                      2. Joe Calzaghe
                      4. Bernard Hopkins
                      5. Israel Vazquez
                      6. Shane Mosley
                      7. Rafael Marquez
                      8. Antonio Margarito
                      9. Miguel Cotto
                      10. Paul Williams
                      11. Ivan Calderon
                      12. Ricky Hatton
                      13. Vic Darchinyan
                      14. Chad Dawson
                      15. Kelly Pavlik
                      16. Nonito Donaire
                      17. Nate Campbell
                      18. Wladimir Klitschko
                      19. Jermain Taylor
                      20. Juan Diaz

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