The offical "I don't have an excuse but... thread. (Not butt.hehe)

**-Antonio-** · 02-07-2009, 01:25 AM

"I take nothing away from Bernard Hopkins, but I wasnt myself. No excuses but I wasnt myself. But ya know no excuses, I got beat. I just didnt feel like myself in there."

-Kelly Pavlik/Antonio Tarver.

**ANDROID_DOES** · 02-07-2009, 01:27 AM

I dont want to make any excuses but mosley should send cotto a thank you letter.

**Haglerwins** · 02-07-2009, 01:33 AM

^ Why, because he learned from watching Cotto get beat up?

**AztecWanker** · 02-07-2009, 01:36 AM

Originally posted by Haglerwins

^ Why, because he learned from watching Cotto get beat up?

No, because Shane saw what Miguel did right and what he did wrong against Margarito, allowing him and his team to come up with an effective gameplan.

**Haglerwins** · 02-07-2009, 01:48 AM

Originally posted by Gift Of Gab

No, because Shane saw what Miguel did right and what he did wrong against Margarito, allowing him and his team to come up with an effective gameplan.

Actually there was 2x more to be learned in what Cotto was NOT doing than what he was, which is why I said what I did. Mosley pressured, clinched, stayed off the ropes (and Cotto is NOT the only victim of doing this against Marg), and went to the body (something Cotto said he found impossible to do against Tony). Let's not start giving credit where it doesn't entirely belong.

**ANDROID_DOES** · 02-07-2009, 01:52 AM

Originally posted by Gift Of Gab

No, because Shane saw what Miguel did right and what he did wrong against Margarito, allowing him and his team to come up with an effective gameplan.

plus the amount of damage cotto did to margarito soften him up. Mosley bearly finished a mayorga who tito and dlh finished quite easily and mayorga was even younger at the time. Mosley couldn't even hurt cotto who's chin is 1/5 of margaritos strength, cotto soften margarito up, but im not making any excuses

**AztecWanker** · 02-07-2009, 01:53 AM

Originally posted by Haglerwins

Actually there was 2x more to be learned in what Cotto was NOT doing than what he was, which is why I said what I did. Mosley pressured, clinched, stayed off the ropes (and Cotto is NOT the only victim of doing this against Marg), and went to the body (something Cotto said he found impossible to do against Tony). Let's not start giving credit where it doesn't entirely belong.

um ok. I think I mentioned that Cotto did some things wrong, not clinching and going to the body are part of those things. Shane more than likely studied this fight more so than previous Tony fights because Kermit didnt win a single round against Tony in two fights, Clottey got hurt in his fight, and Shane doesn't have enough similarities to do what Paul did to him.

**AztecWanker** · 02-07-2009, 01:56 AM

Originally posted by I Box Flowers

plus the amount of damage cotto did to margarito soften him up. Mosley bearly finished a mayorga who tito and dlh finished quite easily and mayorga was even younger at the time. Mosley couldn't even hurt cotto who's chin is 1/5 of margaritos strength, cotto soften margarito up, but im not making any excuses

I doubt that was the case. IMO, it was more of a mental thing. Tony's body language in the Mosley fight was waay different than in the Cotto fight. If Cotto did soft him up, Shane wouldve finished him in 5 or 6 rounds, he was landing bombs at will.

**Haglerwins** · 02-07-2009, 01:58 AM

Originally posted by I Box Flowers

plus the amount of damage cotto did to margarito soften him up. Mosley bearly finished a mayorga who tito and dlh finished quite easily and mayorga was even younger at the time. Mosley couldn't even hurt cotto who's chin is 1/5 of margaritos strength, cotto soften margarito up, but im not making any excuses

If Mosley never bothered Cotto with his power Cotto would've never took a backward step back in the fight. Margarito is a human punching bag if you don't run from him and can clinch.

The offical "I don't have an excuse but... thread. (Not butt.hehe)