Nigel Benn: "Calzaghe Beats Me, Hagler, Hearns, Sugar"

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  • Burning Desire
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    #211
    Originally posted by S a m u r a i
    Why would I have a reason to think he wouldn't do what he has always done in every fight, IE: win?

    I don't believe Hearns would have beaten Calzaghe. And this is coming from a MASSIVE Tommy Hearns fan. Hearns didn't have the best chin. He also got tired and his stamina wasn't fantastic. Although it's easy to see fighters of the past in a glorious light, so I understand why anyone might think Hearns would beat him.

    I always said it would take a good cruiser or heavyweight punch to put Calzaghe down and keep him down. Tommy had power, but not the kind of power needed to KO Calzaghe. He lost to welterweights, middleweights, and light heavies, was knocked out 4 times, had 5 losses in total, and 1 draw. Maybe if Calzaghe was a welter or light middle it might be a different story. As it stands, no, Hearns would not beat Calzaghe. He's not powerful enough and I don't think he'd outpoint him over 12 rounds.
    Joe Calzaghe has never been hit flush by a puncher so how can you say that ? but i remember him getting knocked down heavily by Kabary Salem who is no puncher. Are you honestly trying to tell me Thomas Hearns didn't have the power stop Joe Calzaghe ?

    Just look at the fighters Thoams Hearns stopped and just look at the fighters, he outboxed fighters like Virgil Hill, Wilfred Benitez, Sugar Ray Leonard, ETC. Thomas Hearns doesn't have to have the power he could outbox Joe Calzaghe over 12 rounds.

    Your forgetting how great of a boxer Thomas Hearns was. The right hand was just the icing on the cake, to let you know you can't walkthrough that right hand unless your Marvin Hagler.

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    • TRAVI$
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      #212
      Joe has never lost to a black man
      So I'm guessing he would definitely beat all of them.

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      • IMDAZED
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        #213
        Originally posted by Burning Desire
        Jeff Lacy ? please this is the same Jeff Lacy who went life and death with Syd Vanderpool, Omar Sheika, before the Joe Calzaghe fight.
        Damn BD, you know you're ****!

        I remember being the only person on 15rounds.com saying Calzaghe was gonna school him. I had heard all the hype about Lacy but my first time really watching him was against Vanderpool. I came away quite unimpressed. Nothing he's done since has made me change my tune.

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        • Edward Hitler
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          #214
          Originally posted by IMDAZED
          I think if Lacy went on to accomplish anything (God knows, he barely did anything before Calzaghe) then no one could rightfully say anything.

          However, the fact that you think Lacy is Calzaghe's best win speaks volumes and I think reinforces what a lot of people are saying on here.
          look mate admit ur a hater u dont like joe and i only have 2 more things to say to you
          1. a large majority of the boxing world thought lacy was the next big thing. there opinion is worlds above yours anyone with half a brain will say the same thing

          2 nigel benn thinks you talk biased **** as do the rest of the boxing world now please unless your gonna talk 2 me like a civilised person and not the biased idiot you are being then dont reply to my posts

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          • Burning Desire
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            #215
            Originally posted by *Hagler*
            Hagler didnt have problems with Duran at all I think he simply showed him too much respect if they fought again Hagler would have put him away alot easier than the first fight.
            Hagler was at his best when fighters came to him he and counter punched, look at both Duran and Leonard, they forced him to be the agressor and press the action. Calzaghe im guessing would be coming forward all the time thus making the fight way easier for Hagler because Calzaghe is no speed demon or anywhere near as elusive as Duran or Leonard
            To be honest am i the only on who thinks Marvin Hagler vs Roberto Duran, is one of the most overrated close fights in history ? i honestly didn't think it was that close. Marvin Hagler was a very good boxer people should watch how he uses his feet and counter punches against Bennie Briscoe, Vito Antuofermo 1, brilliant boxing right there.

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              #216
              Originally posted by Danny nolan
              look mate admit ur a hater u dont like joe and i only have 2 more things to say to you
              1. a large majority of the boxing world thought lacy was the next big thing. there opinion is worlds above yours anyone with half a brain will say the same thing

              2 nigel benn thinks you talk biased **** as do the rest of the boxing world now please unless your gonna talk 2 me like a civilised person and not the biased idiot you are being then dont reply to my posts
              Oops! I hope you know that you are inviting the wrath of his highlighting and bold type!

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              • IMDAZED
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                #217
                Originally posted by Danny nolan
                look mate admit ur a hater u dont like joe and i only have 2 more things to say to you
                1. a large majority of the boxing world thought lacy was the next big thing. there opinion is worlds above yours anyone with half a brain will say the same thing

                2 nigel benn thinks you talk biased **** as do the rest of the boxing world now please unless your gonna talk 2 me like a civilised person and not the biased idiot you are being then dont reply to my posts
                Nigel Benn doesn't know me. Calm down. It's a little early but I suggest you go down your troubles with some scotch. I recommend Basel Haden.

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                  #218
                  Originally posted by Burning Desire
                  Joe Calzaghe has never been hit flush by a puncher so how can you say that ? but i remember him getting knocked down heavily by Kabary Salem who is no puncher. Are you honestly trying to tell me Thomas Hearns didn't have the power stop Joe Calzaghe ?

                  Just look at the fighters Thoams Hearns stopped and just look at the fighters, he outboxed fighters like Virgil Hill, Wilfred Benitez, Sugar Ray Leonard, ETC. Thomas Hearns doesn't have to have the power he could outbox Joe Calzaghe over 12 rounds.

                  Your forgetting how great of a boxer Thomas Hearns was. The right hand was just the icing on the cake, to let you know you can't walkthrough that right hand unless your Marvin Hagler.
                  WTF?!??!! You make some excellent points about Hearns but WTF?!?!? He got hit flush in pretty much every fight apart from Lacy and Manfredo. I can only assume you didn't watch the Mitchell or Brewer fights. Or the Sheika slugfest. Christ, you could argue anything else, but not his ability to eat a right hand.

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                  • Edward Hitler
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                    #219
                    Originally posted by IMDAZED
                    I think if Lacy went on to accomplish anything (God knows, he barely did anything before Calzaghe) then no one could rightfully say anything.

                    However, the fact that you think Lacy is Calzaghe's best win speaks volumes and I think reinforces what a lot of people are saying on here.
                    oh and lacy had the potential to be a fantastic boxer but the way he lost to calzaghe mentaly effected him everyone knows that im not sayin lacy was the next jesus of boxin but he was a lot better than you say he is u make out like he couldnt beat a 10 yr old bollocks you talk **** m8

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                    • Roger Mellie
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                      #220
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Nigel Benn doesn't know me. Calm down. It's a little early but I suggest you go down your troubles with some scotch. I recommend Basel Haden.
                      Nice one carlton,thats really funny! want some holy cheese?

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