Hatton, Froch, Macca React To Calzaghe's Retirement

[Technical_Skill]

Here is the truth coming from Kris Silver himself about Kessler's Resume

He's not faced great competition but he's faced some ok guys

Next min he is telling me Kessler has beaten elite fighters. Another Calzaghe cum queen trying to deceive.



Then he pretends he doesnt know what i mean by Elite and starts with some crap about the elite of a particular division.

Pituful Mark.

[Kris Silver]

Here is the truth coming from Kris Silver himself about Kessler's Resume



Next min he is telling me Kessler has beaten elite fighters. Another Calzaghe cum queen trying to deceive.



Then he pretends he doesnt know what i mean by Elite and starts with some crap about the elite of a particular division.

Pituful Mark.

LOL, I stand by all of those comments because their true. You seem to have basic issues with understanding English language, terminology and basic logic.

And now your exposing yourself as a stalker as well.

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[Technical_Skill]

LOL, I stand by all of those comments because their true. You seem to have basic issues with understanding English language, terminology and basic logic.

You obivously dont understand the context of what i mean by elite fighters, Im talking about elite fighters as the great fighters in the sport regardless of weight, not the top ten of a division.

But thats cool calzaghe mark, i suppose you consider Carl Froch and Nikolai Valuev elite fighters too?

Now that you know that context in which i am talking.


Who are the elite (P4P) or great fighters Mikkel Kessler has beaten?

I think the WBO might have even ranked amir khan in their top 10 135 pounders, guess that makes him elite too.

Or can rankings be manipulated?

[Kris Silver]

You obivously dont understand the context of what i mean by elite fighters, Im talking about elite fighters as the great fighters in the sport regardless of weight, not the top ten of a division.

But thats cool calzaghe mark, i suppose you consider Carl Froch and Nikolai Valuev elite fighters too?

Now that you know that context in which i am talking.


Who are the elite (P4P) or great fighters Mikkel Kessler has beaten?

I think the WBO might have even ranked amir khan in their top 10 135 pounders, guess that makes him elite too.

Or can rankings be manipulated?

There's nothing worth adding to anything you've since said, because I originally guessed and covered everything you might have meant or think.

Third time lucky maybe:

elite;
The best or most skilled members of a group


Kessler has beaten numerous top 10 ranked SMW's, which is the top, elite, of a group.

So factually speaking, Kessler has beaten elite fighters. Perhaps you just have a different idea of what is elite like mythical p4p, but that fact remains, he has beaten elite fighters, like it or not.

Here's that outlined;
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...d.php?t=237830

The only word I think is even worth adding, is 'Ring'.

[Technical_Skill]

There's nothing worth adding to anything you've since said, because I originally guessed and covered everything you might have meant or think.

Third time lucky maybe:



The only word I think is even worth adding, is 'Ring'.

All you are telling me, is that i might have a different idea of what elite means.

Well ive told you what part of my criteria for elite is.

So ill ask you again, If i consider Elite fighters, to mean the best fighters in the world regardless of weight class, which of these has kessler beaten?

And just to confirm, since (according to you) its not the skills or resume or wins that make a fighter elite, but the number they are ranked by an organisation (which itself can be subjective) is Carl Froch by your Reckoning an elite fighter?

You said elite equals best or most skilled members of a group.

Newsflash: Being ranked in the top 10 by an organsiation doesnt always make you the best or most skilled of the division.

Michael Jennings is rated no3 or so in the world by the WBO at welterweight, is he an elite fighter?

[Kris Silver]

All you are telling me, is that i might have a different idea of what elite means.

Well ive told you what part of my criteria for elite is.

So ill ask you again, If i consider Elite fighters, to mean the best fighters in the world regardless of weight class, which of these has kessler beaten?

And just to confirm, since (according to you) its not the skills or resume or wins that make a fighter elite, but the number they are ranked by an organisation (which itself can be subjective) is Carl Froch by your Reckoning an elite fighter?

Michael Jennings is rated no3 or so in the world by the WBO at welterweight, is he an elite fighter?

Aside from the fact you have a relentless knack for not understanding basic things which are being said to you, you even ignore some key concise words responding to the only new things you raise.

Ring.

To rant on about the org's after that in the way in which you did, shows you have a serious lack of knowledge on boxing, not to mention life.

[Technical_Skill]

Aside from the fact you have a relentless knack for not understanding basic things which are being said to you, you even ignore some key concise words responding to the only new things you raise.

Ring.

To rant on about the org's after that in the way in which you did, shows you have a serious lack of knowledge on boxing, not to mention life.

Cant answer the questions anymore calzaghe mark?

One last time, cos i know you gotta dash and lube your ******* with sheep fat incase joe pops around later.

If a number from 1-10 assigned by an organization makes you an elite fighter, is Michael Jennings an elite fighter because the WBO ranks him at number 3?

Herbie Hide is ranked no 2 by the WBC at crusierweight, obviously his resume and skills etc dont mean anything, the fact he has a number 2 next to his name automatically makes him an elite fighter.

[Kris Silver]

Cant answer the questions anymore calzaghe mark?

One last time, cos i know you gotta dash and lube your ******* with sheep fat incase joe pops around later.

If a number from 1-10 assigned by an organization makes you an elite fighter, is Michael Jennings an elite fighter because the WBO ranks him at number 3?

Herbie Hide is ranked no 2 by the WBC at crusierweight, obviously his resume and skills etc dont mean anything, the fact he has a number 2 next to his name automatically makes him an elite fighter.

I've never known someone to self own them self so much, whilst as the same time fully believing the opposite to be true. And btw I'm confident I'm way more correct seeing as though you've been fundamentally factually incorrect numerous of times, and missed the most basic of points.

The latest is rankings. I keep saying Ring, you keep saying WBO this, WBC that.

This underlines why you have zero knowledge of boxing, and I don't intend on educating you on what Ring is, what it does, how, or why.

But you clearly don't know, and even when you have a scent of what's going on after guided several times, you clearly either miss it and rack on about something else missing the point, or you make out you do know what's being talked about exactly, when you evidently do not.

I've given you a lot of time and it seems your stubborn in your thinking which I have presented before everyone else is mostly factually incorrect and or ******.

You location listing of "In my own Mind" is very telling, and frightening.

I don't mean to be rude, your just insignificant.

[Technical_Skill]

I've never known someone to self own them self so much, whilst as the same time fully believing the opposite to be true. And btw I'm confident I'm way more correct seeing as though you've been fundamentally factually incorrect numerous of times, and missed the most basic of points.

The latest is rankings. I keep saying Ring, you keep saying WBO this, WBC that.

This underlines why you have zero knowledge of boxing, and I don't intend on educating you on what Ring is, what it does, how, or why.

But you clearly don't know, and even when you have a scent of what's going on after guided several times, you clearly either miss it and rack on about something else missing the point, or you make out you do know what's being talked about exactly, when you evidently do not.

I've given you a lot of time and it seems your stubborn in your thinking which I have presented before everyone else is mostly factually incorrect and or ******.

I don't mean to be rude, your just insignificant.

You havent got it have you?

Rankings can be Subjective, Not always pure fact.

You said "elite=
The best or most skilled members of a group"

The fact is assigning a fighter a number from 1-10 doesnt always automatically make him the best or most skilled in that group.

On 1st of feb 2009

Ring Magazine Ranked Isaac Hlatswayo as no 10 at 147 pounds. Does this number automatically make him an elite fighter and one of the most skilled welterweights in the world?

****in moron.

[Dave Rado]

This childish argument is boring - please could you take it off line?

Take away all the silly ridiculing, playing with semantics, and disingenuous pretend misunderstandings, what's left in summary is just this:

KrisSilver: Prior to his fight with Calzaghe, Kessler cleaned out the top fighters in the division.

Technical_Skill: Yes, but it was a very weak division.

End of discussion.

(It also misses the point somewhat, because the reason many pundits had expected Kessler to beat Calzaghe was because of the manner in which he had dominated his opponents, showing real skill and power).