Who do you consider to be the top 10 greatest welterweights

[S.G.]

Just wondering what the consensus is on here

Personally I find it quite a difficult division to rank (probably down to my sketchy knowledge on a couple of the prominent names), but all the lists I've come across through Google have been quite varied too

[NAPO]

Just wondering what the consensus is on here

Personally I find it quite a difficult division to rank (probably down to my sketchy knowledge on a couple of the prominent names), but all the lists I've come across through Google have been quite varied too

its definitive one of the hardest division to have a top 10, because there was just to many great welterweights.

[S.G.]

its definitive one of the hardest division to have a top 10, because there was just to many great welterweights.

Stuff like Hearns' credentials, whether Barney Ross was a legitimate welter, "How credible are McLarnin's big wins at WW", what did Duran really do at welter etc. all just really tangles it all up

you can make reasons for and discredit quite a lot of names up there

[oldgringo]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Emile Griffith
4. Jose Napoles
5. Henry Armstrong
6. Thomas Hearns
7. Kid Gavilan
8. Joe Walcott
9. Felix Trinidad
10. Mickey Walker

Something like that. I think Hearns is probably as talented as anyone who has fought in the division, but he couldn't overcome his weak'ish chin and mental lapses in the ring against top fighters.

[TheGreatA]

Here are some lists:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=66198

[S.G.]

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Sugar Ray Leonard
3. Emile Griffith
4. Jose Napoles
5. Henry Armstrong
6. Thomas Hearns
7. Kid Gavilan
8. Joe Walcott
9. Felix Trinidad
10. Mickey Walker

Something like that. I think Hearns is probably as talented as anyone who has fought in the division, but he couldn't overcome his weak'ish chin and mental lapses in the ring against top fighters.

sensible list

what's your reasoning behind placing Armstrong lower than top 3 and leaving Basilio/Ross out?

[S.G.]

Here are some lists:

http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...ad.php?t=66198

ah thanks. i had a little look and couldn't find a existing thread

[Testdead]

From what i have seen.

Robinson
Leonard
Armstrong
Hearns
Walker
Whitiker
Oscar

[oldgringo]

sensible list

what's your reasoning behind placing Armstrong lower than top 3 and leaving Basilio/Ross out?

Gotta go...my break is over but I'll be back to talk later.

[S.G.]

From what i have seen.

Robinson
Leonard
Armstrong
Hearns
Walker
Whitiker
Oscar

Oscar? I rate him very highly but a disputed win over old Whitaker, a win against Quartey, losses against Mosley and a loss against Trinidad (although I did score the Trinidad fight for him myself) doesn't seem to stand up against what some of these other guys have achieved there