Pavlik Is A More Legitimate Opponent Than Dawson

[Dan...]

LOL, horrible opinion as usual from Mozza.

[RAESAAD]

Hmmm Dawson is bigger, stronger,faster,more polished and the next coming of Jesus Christ.....Did I mention he's also a Southpaw? Dawson is certainly a more legitimate threat to anyone from 160-175 than Pavlik is.

[Mozza]

Amazed you'd say a MW as powerful as he is, with less speed, variety, accuracy and combinations overall would be more likely to KO Calzaghe's tough chin.

Joe's been there done that, even if he took a shot he wouldn't be too phased.

Calzaghe dominates Pavlik. He loses a few rounds or so to Dawson whom is much better.

This might sound like a bit of a contradiction however just because I believe Pavlik has the better chance does not necessarily mean I think their fight would be closer. I can well imagine Calzaghe winning wider on the cards against The Ghost than Bad Chad however the only way I see either of them beating Calzaghe is by KO and I feel Pavlik is better equipped to do that.

[Enemy/Friend]

First of all, neither me nor any other so-called Calzaghe fan has any reason to say Pavlik is a more credible choice of opponent out of loyalty to Joe. It's not as if we are expecting imminent news of this fight so I think we can pretty much dismiss that allegation.

I understand Dawson is at ligh-heavyweight with Joe just now but I don't remember specifying what weight any fight would take place at. As it happens, the fight with Calzaghe and Pavlik would have to take place at 168.

The Dawson and Johnson fight was close and you could make a case for either winning however Hopkins is a far more formidable opponent and when you look beyond those fights I think Pavlik comes out on top.

The financial aspect has to be taken into consideration, let's not pretend it doesn't.

Anything above 160 would leave Pavlik with less power, slower hand speed and foot movement. Even with all of those attributes in tact he still would get boxed around the ring. This was my opinion before the Hopkins fight and it still holds.

[cassiusthegreat]

however the standout name from both their records is Jermain Taylor.

when did dawson fight taylor?

Pavlik is a big draw and star due to his exciting fights. Dawson is pretty much a no draw whatsoever to the general public. Dawson is the better boxer though.

since when was pavlik a draw? exciting fighter? yes of course he is but a draw he is not outside of eing popular in the area he lives in.he doesn't attract interest


and I would regard dawson as more legitimate as he has has proved himself at 175 where's pavlik has never fought at that weight and not proved himself at super middleweight level let alone light heavyweight


and I think calzaghe would defeat both of them to be honest


that is if we are talking about calzaghe? we are right?

[Mozza]

Anything above 160 would leave Pavlik with less power, slower hand speed and foot movement. Even with all of those attributes in tact he still would get boxed around the ring. This was my opinion before the Hopkins fight and it still holds.

I think that's a red herring. Pavlik is more than big enough to handle himself at 168. His boxing ability notwithstanding, I don't accept the other points.

[Mozza]

when did dawson fight taylor?

He didn't. What it means is when you look at both their records combined the most impressive name in the win column is Jermain Taylor.

[Nobuhiro Sugoi]

Dawsons problem is his chin and he has no power so Pavlik will keep coming and Chad isnt as good a boxer as BHop so I gotta go with Pavlik getting in at least a few hard shots and I dont think Chads chin would hold up. There is no reason for Kelly to fight Dawson though, it would be all risk and no reward, for Chad on the other hand it would be a big payday so this fight wont happen.

[Enemy/Friend]

I think that's a red herring. Pavlik is more than big enough to handle himself at 168. His boxing ability notwithstanding, I don't accept the other points.

He may be able to handle the weight but from seeing both his fights above 168 he seemed sluggish and lacked even the double jab. This is just my opinion, I am sure Hopkins had something to do with that. Jermain was hit with some flush shots in the rematch and they didn't seem to have the same effect but like I said, it is just my point of view.

[warp1432]

I think that's a red herring. Pavlik is more than big enough to handle himself at 168. His boxing ability notwithstanding, I don't accept the other points.

Pavlik is big enough to carry 175, but he'll get schooled by great boxers. Hopkins, Calzaghe, and potentially even Dawson if he doesn't get caught/

Pavlik does not deserve a shot anywhere near Calzaghe. Neither does Dawson for that matter imo, but he's certainly more worthy then Pavlik. Joe should **** them all and fight Hopkins again instead.