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Originally posted by r ! z
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But, I'm tired of him man, lol. So damn tired.
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I love Calzaghe, I'd probably bum him with my girlfriend watching.
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the general consensus on here was 50/50 as near as makes no difference.That doesn't change the general consensusComment
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If I want to talk about betting consensus i'll go and post on Labrokes.com.Originally posted by IMDAZED View PostComment
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it definitely wasnt 50/50... and that negates the fact that roy was still undeserving of a fight with joe... and thats the whole point... because a few posters think roy could of won the fight, has absolutely nothing to do with Joe actually choosing to fight Roy as if he is a prime version of himself.Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
He did it for money, and nothing else... don't ever mention increasing Joe's legacy by beating Roy.Comment
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You may not be trying to justify this fight by going by the forum members on this site but just in case, check this thread out....Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
Okay, I'm getting tired of seeing this because it indicates that the majority of people on this site seem to have failed basic logic, debating and structure of argument in your schoolwork.
Example 1:
Ricky Hatton vs. JLC
Tons of people on this site hated Ricky Hatton. They want to see Ricky Hatton lose, for whatever reason. Could be because he's British, could be because his style sucks for them, could be because they don't like his spamming fanbase, could be cause they don't give him enough credit...whatever.
A fight prediction thread is made. The majority picks Castillo by beatdown. This despite the fact that Castillo failed to make weight HOW MANY times and struggled against some journeyman assclown before the Hatton fight. Anyone with a clue who saw that fight should and would have said that yes, Castillo was shot, in fact very shot (couldn't have been the first Corrales vs. Castillo fight that did it, could it?)
Fight occurs, Castillo shows up with the look of man who is beyond shot and done. He does not want to be there and quits at the first sign of adversity, something he's never done before.
Hatton wins.
Here's what you can say about this:
Hatton's detractors need to re-examine what they think about him. If they were that obtuse about his skills before maybe they are biased about him and will never give him enough credit. Above all they should admit they were wrong and man up about the incorrect prediction.
What you can NOT say about this (the point of this thread):
Oh well because a ton of ******s said Hatton would lose, JL Castillo was not shot and was still a good fighter.
Listen up ******s: just because the majority opinion says something DOES NOT MAKE IT TRUE. It just means the majority is ******ed, ignorant or biased.
This is like saying well "the majority of people after 9/11 wanted to go to war in Iraq because they were told there were WMD. So therefore there WERE WMD in Iraq".
Do you idiots even begin to realize how bad this type of logic is? I mean seriously. Think about that last statement I just wrote and just stop. Stop being fanboys and try to analyze thing a bit more objectively.
End rant.Comment
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Originally posted by hammerhiem View Post
The Jones fight was for money, not legacy. Everyone knows this. And Jones was a 3-1 underdog for a reason. Just because he was not a huge underdog as was the betting consensus here doesn't change that.Comment
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Dawson is too high risk/low reward for Calzaghe to take on at this stage of his career. Calzaghe isn't going to put his undefeated status at risk when he's close to retiring.
Shame really, because i think he would beat Dawson but that's the reason why he probably won't fight Dawson IMO. He wants to walk away with that '0'.Comment
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