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  • #81
    Originally posted by Enemy/Friend View Post
    Froch has publicly ripped Calzaghe apart and claimed he is ducking him also. Just because a fighter talks up a big game does not mean you have to fight him. Jermain could wait as long as he wants to face any SMW. He is a contender who has had only one fight at 168. People act as if Taylor has been there his whole career avoiding fighters. Jermain has a great resume and fought all the best at 160 excluding Abraham so I doubt he is avoiding Carl.
    Calzaghe hasnt just been knocked out twice on the spin. I think Taylor has slightly more to prove against Froch.

    Im also bored of Taylor being excused from taking tough fights now because of who hes fought in the past. I give him props for that but it looks like the Pavlik defeats have scared him into coasting his way through the rest of his career.

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    • #82
      Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
      kessler is a nobody. he fights nobodies. explain to me why kessler is so interested in fighting dawson, when there are good fighters at his own weight he could be chasing fights with. i smell b.s.
      If Kessler is a nobody then why did Dawson offer to fight him?

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      • #83
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        I was referring to Tarver.
        Tarver is the 5th best LHW. See Tarver may be in the #4 spot, but Calzaghe is champ ahead of them all meaning Tarvers infact 5th. Get it?

        Ok right so...woah, Tarver now beats;

        Bute, Kessler, Taylor, Froch, Andrade, Green.

        Good grief. He certainly loses to Kessler and Taylor, probably to Bute, possibly to Green, and probably beats Andrade.


        I repeat, the #5 at SMW beats the #4, #5, and #6 at LHW. So regardless, this line of questioning you started is not helping your argument, but instead backing up that of the SMW's. Perhaps try something else.

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        • #84
          Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
          Excuse? No........im genuinely interested as to who he should be fighting.

          Its funny that you pour scorn on Kessler offering Dawson a catchweight fight but then cynically suggest that Kessler is avoiding a catchweight fight with Johnson.

          Also funny how you suggest that Kessler fighting Larsen "tells its own story". Yet I wonder what you'd have to say about Johson fighting Daniel Judah. Or even Dawson fighting Tarver.

          Your act is pretty predictable.
          LOL. Good old Dirk.

          There is no proof Dawson turned down anything from Kessler, save for something Kessler's US agent said. On the flip side, Gary Shaw has said countless times - most recently in the latest issue of IBD - that Dawson is willing to go down in weight to face Kessler.

          That's for starters.

          Furthermore, HBO offered Kessler a fight against Dawson as well. He didn't want to move up? Fine. But there was a fight he could've made. He just DIDN'T WANT TO.

          Ok, what other crap did you spew here...yeah, he turned down Johnson. Didn't want the catchweight? Fine. That was a fight he could've taken right? HE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO.

          Which leads to your NEXT crappy argument. What do I have to say about Johnson fighting Judah? Umm...would that be after he was turned down by Kessler?

          You gotta love it.

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          • #85
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            Calzaghe hasnt just been knocked out twice on the spin. I think Taylor has slightly more to prove against Froch.

            Im also bored of Taylor being excused from taking tough fights now because of who hes fought in the past. I give him props for that but it looks like the Pavlik defeats have scared him into coasting his way through the rest of his career.
            He still has a long career to go, lets not judge him right now. Green is no push over, a win against him could prepare him for Froch. Some could argue Allan posses more boxing skill than Carl, don't let his loss to Miranda fool you.

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            • #86
              Originally posted by Enemy/Friend View Post
              Tarver has a rematch clause, that is why the fight is happening.
              Yep and Kessler had an enforced mandatory in his last fight. Do you think he was offered the same leeway?

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              • #87
                Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
                Tarver is the 5th best LHW. See Tarver may be in the #4 spot, but Calzaghe is champ ahead of them all meaning Tarvers inface 5th. Get it?


                Ok right so...woah, Tarver now beats;

                Bute, Kessler, Taylor, Froch, Andrade, Green.

                Good grief. He certainly loses to Kessler and Taylor, probably to Bute to Green, and probably beats Andrade.


                I repeat, the #5 at SMW beats the #4, #5, and #6 at LHW. So regardless, this line of questioning you started is not helping your argument, but instead backing up that of the SMW's. Perhaps try something else.
                What makes you think Tarver loses to Kessler or Taylor? I disagree. And Kessler's the best the division's got.

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                • #88
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  What makes you think Tarver loses to Kessler or Taylor? I disagree. And Kessler's the best the division's got.
                  Well where's this line you started taken us then?

                  Sorry but I do not think Tarver beats Kessler, Taylor, or Bute. The others are debatable but he'd probably pick up another loss between Froch and Green too. I don't think that's too harsh, but I do think your being optimistic on Tarver.

                  The SMW and LHW divisions are actually both reasonably, relatively evenly stacked. Not deep, but both have there share of a few real top guys, a few medioka's, and some average lower guys.

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                  • #89
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    Yep and Kessler had an enforced mandatory in his last fight. Do you think he was offered the same leeway?
                    I don't have a comment on Kessler's mandatory defense, just trying to clear up the situation in case you didn't know.

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                    • #90
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      LOL. Good old Dirk.

                      There is no proof Dawson turned down anything from Kessler, save for something Kessler's US agent said. On the flip side, Gary Shaw has said countless times - most recently in the latest issue of IBD - that Dawson is willing to go down in weight to face Kessler.
                      Dawson HIMSELF said that he only wanted fights at 175 - no catchweight, no 168. I have never seen Gary Shaw say that - not saying he didnt, feel free to show me. Im just telling you what Dawson HIMSELF said.

                      Now having apparently changed his tune, hes calling out Paul Williams at 168.......making no mention of Kessler. So clearly, hes desperate to fight him LOL

                      That's for starters.

                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Furthermore, HBO offered Kessler a fight against Dawson as well. He didn't want to move up? Fine. But there was a fight he could've made. He just DIDN'T WANT TO.
                      Proof? Again, not denying it but since you are so desperate for proof when the coin is flipped, Id also like to see some.

                      Either way, Kessler didnt want to fight at 175. Dawson DIDNT WANT TO fight at 168 NOR a catchweight. His words, not mine.


                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Ok, what other crap did you spew here...yeah, he turned down Johnson. Didn't want the catchweight? Fine. That was a fight he could've taken right? HE JUST DIDN'T WANT TO.
                      Again, an alarming lack of proof that Kessler turned down Johnson. When its Dawson turning down Kessler, you turn into Sherlock Holmes but when its Kessler apparently turning down anyone, its immediately accepted as fact.

                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Which leads to your NEXT crappy argument. What do I have to say about Johnson fighting Judah? Umm...would that be after he was turned down by Kessler?
                      And would Kessler be fighting Larsen after being turned down by every fighter that he called out in the article I provided? No....of course not, that "tells its own story".

                      Your act is predictable.

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