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  • #51
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    He did indeed. So that negates point (3) of your argument below.



    Kessler said, "Im the Champ at 168 so come see me there". Kessler has more of a claim to being the top dog at his division than Dawson, I might add.



    Dawson didnt want to. He said he only wanted it at 175. Kessler agreed to compromise for a catchweight fight which seems the logical solution since seemingly neither man wanted to give up their respective weight advantages.



    So you're saying that Dawson ignores those that call him out and instead calls out fighters several weights below him? This makes little sense.



    You ask this, whilst at the same time saying Kessler is a nobody who doesnt warrant a big fight with Dawson. Contradiction?

    I would hope his next opponent was Dawson - he chose to fight a pointless rematch with Tarver though. Hopkins and Calzaghe dont want to fight him. Jermain Taylor doesnt even want to fight Carl Froch let alone Kessler. Lucian Bute is in hiding after the Andrade fight. So I dont see where all the options are for Kessler.
    how has kessler more of a claim than dawson?

    dawson has just faced, and beaten two of the top 5 LHW.....cant say that for kessler.....

    i'll ignore your other points b/c its getting redundant......why call out dawson, to move down, when there are plenty other fighters at 168 that you can fight, instead of mads larsen?

    the fact kessler "called out dawson" is not impressive. that's an easy thing to do when you know the guy has ni interest in fighting you whatsoever....especially if he has to move down.....

    why not call out jermaine taylor or bute?

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    • #52
      Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
      how has kessler more of a claim than dawson?

      dawson has just faced, and beaten two of the top 5 LHW.....cant say that for kessler.....
      Ignorance again.

      Kessler has beaten 5 top 10 SMW's. That pretty much screws your whole 2x top 5's for Dawson doesn't it.

      Educate yourself, you clearly don't know what your talking about.

      Click that link.

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      • #53
        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        We know the story - he has an evil promoter who gets him the easiest fights out there for the most money, like Larsen.

        What a tragedy.

        Like I said...one thing I've noticed about fighters who want to fight the best...that usually means they want to get PAID.

        Antonio Margarito

        Marvin Hagler

        Floyd Mayweather

        Bernard Hopkins

        They screamed and screamed about the best, basically because they didn't feel they were getting the big bucks. Once the tables turned, so did they.

        I'm a little wary of a guy who is getting paid big bucks to fight chumps. Usually they don't mind that much. But whatever, Kessler's resume over 40-something fights isn't as impressive as his counterparts. Until he steps up (or breaks from his evil promoter), he's a non-entity holding a paper title.
        That didnt answer my question. Which of the fighters mentioned could he have conceivably fought?

        I dont think his promoter is entirely to blame for him not getting big fights.

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        • #54
          Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
          how has kessler more of a claim than dawson?

          dawson has just faced, and beaten two of the top 5 LHW.....cant say that for kessler.....

          i'll ignore your other points b/c its getting redundant......why call out dawson, to move down, when there are plenty other fighters at 168 that you can fight, instead of mads larsen?

          the fact kessler "called out dawson" is not impressive. that's an easy thing to do when you know the guy has ni interest in fighting you whatsoever....especially if he has to move down.....

          why not call out jermaine taylor or bute?
          Dawson had interest in fighting Mikkel, they were in negotiations for a bout but Chad didn't want to fight at a catch weight and Kessler was not going to move up to LHW. If Dawson ever moves down to SMW he should face Kessler as he is far more established than Paul Williams at that weight class. If Chad felt as comfortable as he says in the lower weightclasses, he should of fought Kessler at the catch weight they wanted, or maybe it was Palle that halted the negotiations.

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          • #55
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            That didnt answer my question. Which of the fighters mentioned could he have conceivably fought?

            I dont think his promoter is entirely to blame for him not getting big fights.
            That doesn't matter. Were you asking this same question when he opted to pick up a paper title? Were you asking this question when he opted to defend his paper title against a complete and utter joke?

            What's Kessler's best win?

            Exactly.

            He's fought over 40-something times. Obviously there have been plenty of opportunities over time which perhaps he (or his promoter) didn't feel like taking. But they have been there. They always are.

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            • #56
              Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
              how has kessler more of a claim than dawson?
              Because Kessler is clearly the best at 168lbs. Calzaghe and arguably Hopkins and Glen Johnson could be said to be better LHWs than Dawson.

              Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
              dawson has just faced, and beaten two of the top 5 LHW.....cant say that for kessler.....
              Kessler wouldnt have gotten into a position to challenge Calzaghe for the linear championship at 168 if he hadnt beaten any guys in the top 5 at 168. So false again.

              Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
              i'll ignore your other points b/c its getting redundant......
              Now theres a surprise......

              Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
              why call out dawson, to move down, when there are plenty other fighters at 168 that you can fight, instead of mads larsen?
              Because he wants to fight the best fighters? Just an idea....thought that was the point.

              Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
              the fact kessler "called out dawson" is not impressive. that's an easy thing to do when you know the guy has ni interest in fighting you whatsoever....especially if he has to move down.....
              I didnt say it was impressive. Impressive would be beating Dawson. Unfortunately, as you say, Dawson has no interest in the fight. You seem ok with that, I would rather see two of the best young fighters in around 168/175 fight each other. Rather than Dawson/Tarver 2 and Kessler/Larsen.

              Originally posted by tyde13 View Post
              why not call out jermaine taylor or bute?
              He did call out Jermain Taylor. Taylor shivers at the sight of Carl Froch - why would he go near Kessler? Di Bella has already admitted that they dont want any part of Kessler.

              Bute is the same situation, he is taking an easy comeback fight after the Andrade catastrophe.

              So again........what are the options for Kessler?

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              • #57
                Just because Kessler is the best in a weak division doesn't mean he's better than a guy who's strong in a tougher division. That's like saying the best grocery store in the Bronx has a bigger claim than Walmart.

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                • #58
                  Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                  That doesn't matter. Were you asking this same question when he opted to pick up a paper title? Were you asking this question when he opted to defend his paper title against a complete and utter joke?

                  What's Kessler's best win?

                  Exactly.

                  He's fought over 40-something times. Obviously there have been plenty of opportunities over time which perhaps he (or his promoter) didn't feel like taking. But they have been there. They always are.
                  It does matter. You're complaining about him fighting nobody. Im asking who he could conceivably have fought and you have no answer.

                  Pretty much says it all.

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                  • #59
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    It does matter. You're complaining about him fighting nobody. Im asking who he could conceivably have fought and you have no answer.

                    Pretty much says it all.


                    He's fighting a nobody. What else is new?

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                    • #60
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Just because Kessler is the best in a weak division doesn't mean he's better than a guy who's strong in a tougher division. That's like saying the best grocery store in the Bronx has a bigger claim than Walmart.
                      Who said either of them was "better" because of that? We dont know whos better cos they havent fought yet.

                      I said that in response to someone saying Dawson was "the champ" at 175 hence has more right to demand Kessler move up. When realistically, hes a titlist.

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