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  • #31
    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
    I dont get it. I saw an interview with Dawson after the first Tarver fight where he stated categorically that he wouldnt be fighting at Cruiserweight or 168 or at any catchweight.

    He also refused to come down to 168 to fight Kessler - the recognised best in that division. But now hes saying he'll drop the pounds to fight........Paul Williams? Makes no sense to me.
    Well since there is no other fights for him at light heavyweight, he has no other choice but to drop to 168 or try to have them come up to fight him, and on one is actually going to move to 175 and fight him. Kessler wants no part of Dawson and Garry Shaw has already offered them a fight which they have turned down. The last name Kessler fought was Calzaghe and that was two years ago, why would he all of sudden fight Dawson?

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    • #32
      Originally posted by slicksouthpaw16 View Post
      Well since there is no other fights for him at light heavyweight, he has no other choice but to drop to 168 or try to have them come up to fight him, and on one is actually going to move to 175 and fight him. Kessler wants no part of Dawson and Garry Shaw has already offered them a fight which they have turned down. The last name Kessler fought was Calzaghe and that was two years ago, why would he all of sudden fight Dawson?
      I dont know what was offered to who. But the noises out of both camps were that Kessler didnt want to give up a weight advantage by moving to 175 and Dawson felt the same about moving to 168. Kessler offered to have the fight at a catchweight but Dawson is on record as saying he didnt want any catchweight fights and only wanted to fight at 175.

      Now hes saying 168 could be his "best weight". Seems a bit contradictory to me. And surely if it is your best weight, you'd wanna go after the top guy.......not Paul Williams.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Joe2608 View Post
        Johnson rematch, Hopkins, Calzaghe??

        I fail to see how he's fighting the best fights out there, he'd rather fight a blown up Welterweight.
        calm down......he said in the future sometime, when PW moves up.....

        blown up WW? i bet you're one of the same ppl who say PW is too big for WW, and should be fighting at MW anyway.......SMH

        Originally posted by Addition View Post
        WTF, he's willing to go down a weight for Williams but not Kessler. He wouldn't even fight Kessler at a catchweight. Strange.
        kessler is a nobody. he fights nobodies. explain to me why kessler is so interested in fighting dawson, when there are good fighters at his own weight he could be chasing fights with. i smell b.s.

        Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
        Yup, especially in a rematch. He shouldn't overlook Tarver at ALL, who has been extremely quiet leading up to this bout.

        Tarver's left + Dawson's concentration lapses = danger.
        i agree to an extent....tarver has been great in rematches, but lets not be mistaken here....like dawson said, in those rematches he was successful, tarver did SOMETHING the first time around. the first fight w/ dawson, he was slow, couldn't throw combo's and in fact got 4-5 punches thrown at him everytime he threw one. tarver lost about EVERY ROUND.

        they say in boxing never overlook anyone, but i'm having a hard time figuring out anything tarver can do in a rematch differently, or any weaknesses we saw w/ chad in the first fight tarver can exploit. call me crazy, but i think the young guy has every reason to be as ****y and confident going into the rematch w/ tarver as he is.....don't forget how much **** tarver talked before the first fight.......

        Originally posted by Migs View Post
        Me too. I like Chad Dawson but I'd like to see him stick around longer. He is a phenomenal boxer and even as some people might not have enjoyed his first fight with Tarver, I thought it was amazing. He put on a clinic.



        With my above statement said, as much as I like Dawson, I'm still upset that he won't give Johnson a rematch. To me, that's what a real champion does.
        it was a good fight. dawson got reckless, and started brawling later on, when he was clearly faster and able to outbox glen johnson early on. you can give glen johnson 10-8 for the round he had chad hurt, and dawson still wins the fight by 2-3 points. ppl got the impression johnson won b/c he hurt chad for a round and a half, but they seem to forget the rest of the fight. dawson won a CLOSE fight, there was no robbery, therefore he doesn't NEED to give glen johnson a rematch.

        had dawson been chasing mandatories, or some **** like that, then i'd agree, "hey, why not fight glen johnson again?" but dawson is looking to fight better fighters, so don't knock the kid. he beat johnson already, nothing wrong with wanting calzaghe or hopkins, guys at his weight who are ranked higher and more known than he or glen johnson.

        Originally posted by ~Tunney View Post
        Instead of chasing fights with old fighters like Tarver, Johnson, Calzaghe and Hopkins, Dawson should fight someone his own age like Tavoris Cloud.
        you'd favor cloud in a fight against hopkins or calzaghe?

        Originally posted by KrisSilver View Post
        I don't really see what's so unique or admirable with what Chad's said here, sorry. I quite like the guy and think he's good, but firstly the main thing people have gone on at him for is re matching Johnson, he doesn't from what I saw, mention a single thing about it.

        Secondly he seems to moan about not being the best LHW in the world, without having any comprehension or respect for the logical rules and reasons why, which most don't complain of.

        Those are, Hopkins beat the man at LHW, so became the man.

        Calzaghe beat the man, top guy, at LHW, and became the top man.

        To say Calzaghe has really not fought there is just ****** sour g****s, yes he has, and he toppled the top guy, more than you've done I'm afraid mate. Guys go up a division for a big win all the time, look at Pacman at mo. So get used to it.

        Chad has quite simply, not done this. He's not beaten the two guys above him, and with hardly loads of LHW fights for any of them, he does not deserve to suddenly go above those guys whom were #1 and another whom beat him to become #1. These are standard logical rules for Ring rankings. Perhaps he needs to study and appreciate them more before speaking out like this, because it makes him look a little silly.

        Then he's just listed a few names as to who he'd eventually like to fight. Most guys have idea's, dreams for whom they'd like to fight perhaps, idea's and such, to earn the most, get as high p4p as possible, become as big a name as possible. So it's nothing more than that, listing some desires of that.

        To top it off, he's willing to go down to 168 to face someone whom has not titles there, has spoken out of no plans to even fight there, but he won't for the guy whom has fought there for years, has belts, and is regarded as the best there? WTF is up with that?
        b/c kessler has fought nobody either. he's an unknown commodity, and lost his ONLY fight against a known fighter. i don't understand all the kessler nuthugging in the least. like i said before, kessler will chase fights against the top LHW, but he has expressed no desire to fight the top guys at his own weight, and there's a number of fights he could choose from......

        also, in a year or two, when dawson is imagining fighting williams, who's to say he won't have moved up to SMW and won a belt or two. he's supposed to be fighting winky a MW, so you think a move up in weight in the next two years, is unrealistic for PW, a guy who has expressed an interest to fight the best fighters at w/e weight? hell, i applaud dawson for even having an interest in fighting PW, a guy no other top tier fighter wants to fight.....

        and your last point, is mine also......hopkins and calzaghe are both ranked higher than dawson, and rightfully so, by your reasoning and mine's alike.....

        so explain to me, what's with everybody's hate for dawson for wanting to fight the two guys ranked above him, instead of facing a guy nobody cares for in kessler?

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        • #34
          Originally posted by tyde13 View Post


          i agree to an extent....tarver has been great in rematches, but lets not be mistaken here....like dawson said, in those rematches he was successful, tarver did SOMETHING the first time around. the first fight w/ dawson, he was slow, couldn't throw combo's and in fact got 4-5 punches thrown at him everytime he threw one. tarver lost about EVERY ROUND.

          they say in boxing never overlook anyone, but i'm having a hard time figuring out anything tarver can do in a rematch differently, or any weaknesses we saw w/ chad in the first fight tarver can exploit. call me crazy, but i think the young guy has every reason to be as ****y and confident going into the rematch w/ tarver as he is.....don't forget how much **** tarver talked before the first fight.......
          Yeah and Tarver is pretty quiet now. However, I'm not basing Tarver being dangerous on his track record in rematches. I'm actually basing it on what I saw the first time. Tarver DID land his left a few times quite solidly. Dawson took them well, to my surprise. That may not happen a second time.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
            I dont know what was offered to who. But the noises out of both camps were that Kessler didnt want to give up a weight advantage by moving to 175 and Dawson felt the same about moving to 168. Kessler offered to have the fight at a catchweight but Dawson is on record as saying he didnt want any catchweight fights and only wanted to fight at 175.

            Now hes saying 168 could be his "best weight". Seems a bit contradictory to me. And surely if it is your best weight, you'd wanna go after the top guy.......not Paul Williams.

            the fact is, KESSLER called out dawson.......

            dawson said, "i'm a champ at 175, so come see me there."

            kessler didn't want to. he wanted it at 168, or a catchweight.

            obviously the diff btw. the two is that KESSLER called him out, PW has not. i'm guessing it would only be fair to meet PW at 168, considering he's coming from as low as WW......whereas kessler calls him out (1), is a nobody (2), has beaten nobody (3), and doesn't look to beat anybody relevant either (4).

            who's kessler's next opponent?

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            • #36
              I dont get some fans.

              On one hand, Dawson shouldnt fight Kessler because hes a "nobody".

              Yet on the other, Kessler is nothing because hasn't fought anybody.

              Make up your minds.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Boricua19355c View Post
                Chad Dawson is the real deal lol,Tarver is going to lose again By Ud maybe even Ko. If Williams vs Dawson Happens I think Dawson would outwork Williams to a Sd victory.
                Williams throws more than Dawson, but Dawson will easily outskill him

                Originally posted by BULLIT View Post
                Dawson needs to step up to cruiser and grab Adameks belt.
                Why? He alread did it, nobody is interested in Dawson spanking Adamek again.

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                • #38
                  Chad Dawson's management - in the latest publication of International Boxing Digest - expresses a willingness to move down to 168.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK View Post
                    I dont know what was offered to who. But the noises out of both camps were that Kessler didnt want to give up a weight advantage by moving to 175 and Dawson felt the same about moving to 168. Kessler offered to have the fight at a catchweight but Dawson is on record as saying he didnt want any catchweight fights and only wanted to fight at 175.

                    Now hes saying 168 could be his "best weight". Seems a bit contradictory to me. And surely if it is your best weight, you'd wanna go after the top guy.......not Paul Williams.
                    we both know kessler would pull out of the fight in the last minute if it were agreed

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED View Post
                      Yeah and Tarver is pretty quiet now. However, I'm not basing Tarver being dangerous on his track record in rematches. I'm actually basing it on what I saw the first time. Tarver DID land his left a few times quite solidly. Dawson took them well, to my surprise. That may not happen a second time.
                      i understand. but my point was simply...tarver did NOTHING that had any effect the first fight, so what is there to be worried about the second time around?

                      basically what you're saying tarver's argument is......"i'm going to do the same thing i did the first fight, land my left a "few" times, and hope it affects him this time around."

                      to me, tarver would be a lot more dangerous, in this rematch, had he done ANYTHING in the first fight. i just don't see anything else he can do, except like you said, land the left, and hope it hurts the guy the second time around.....

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