the middleweight division is in trouble

[S.G.]

a leopard doesn't change it's spots

he'll still be a one dimensional pressure fighter. but he's good at it, and has great physical weapons

he'll be king at middleweight simply because it's a terrible division right now

[mickyward5656]

Anyone other than me making the trip to Youngstown for the fight?

[larryx]

If Rubio is smart he wont stand in front of pav like lockett. hit him and move to the side. keep him at angles. That str8 right can only go str8. Keep him moving and not let him get set and he is done! I see nothing spectacular in pavs. AA is the king of the division in my opinion.

naw i think pavlik learned to keep them on his right so he'll keep moving to his left...if rubio tries to go to pavliks left..pavlik should just cutt him off...or develop a good left hook

[warp1432]

Middleweight isn't in trouble because Pavlik is back, but it's in trouble because outside of Pavlik, Abraham, Sturm, and Winky/Pwill's winner everyone is ****ing terrible.

[larryx]

a leopard doesn't change it's spots

he'll still be a one dimensional pressure fighter. but he's good at it, and has great physical weapons

he'll be king at middleweight simply because it's a terrible division right now

i dont know he's only 27...he's still open to learn

[larryx]

Middleweight isn't in trouble because Pavlik is back, but it's in trouble because outside of Pavlik, Abraham, Sturm, and Winky/Pwill's winner everyone is ****ing terrible.

come on man dont be so negative..middleweight aint that bad

[mickyward5656]

If Williams fought Pavlik how do you see it going?

[warp1432]

come on man dont be so negative..middleweight aint that bad

3. Sebastian Sylvester (Got Dominated by Sturm)
4. Khoren Gevor (Got Knocked out by Abraham)
5. Randy Griffin (Lost clearly in a rematch to Sturm)
6. David Lopez (This is probably the best contender out there...)
7. Javier Castillejo (I mean seriously...lol)
8. Marco Antonio Rubio (About to get crushed by Pavlik, lost to Ornelas imo)
9. Amin Asikainen (Lost to Slyvester and Got KOd by Gevor)
10. Daniel Geale (Who????)

This is the top 3-10 according to The Ring.........The only other people I can think of are John Duddy, Andy Lee, and Enrique Ornleas. This really has no one else right now. Wright is missing in the list due to inactivity.

[Guest]

Peter "Kid Chocolate" Quillen may be in the mix if he improves some.
20-0 15 ko's.

All the top euro's have seemed to gotten stomped by Abraham.

Then they just find obscure Americans to go to Germany to get the crap beat out of them.

[TheSurgeonMDMPH]

If Williams fought Pavlik how do you see it going?

PW by KO. Sounds crazy but the turning pav would have to do to catch PW will make him dizzy. Plus PW has the reach advantage as well so he wont give that up too easily.