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  • #21
    Originally posted by Thadrow View Post
    I highly doubt Pac hits harder than Marg. I think the true WW [Cotto, Marg, Mosley, Clottey] would be able to take Pac's hits just have problems with his speed.

    But i don't think i'm lose 10k

    who has faced better opposition ? Julio or Kirkland ? Kirkland vs Vera He looked winded towards the end.

    Julio's last fight with a pretty good boxer was competitive, i'll take Julio !
    okay man......... sig this

    kirkland is gonna make julio his *****

    that way, i wont have to say i told you so

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    • #22
      There is some serious truth to what Dino said. None of these highly ranked Jr WWs can beat Mayweather, Cotto, Clottey @ 147. I also had Zab beating Baldy but in no way was it a robbery

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      • #23
        Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
        judah cant beat hatton........ he may be able to beat paulie, but if he fights the way hes been fighting, he cantg beat kendall holt......

        and if that article about pac hitting harder than marg is true, then pac destroys cotto
        Zab is a really good fighter when he ain't tryin to take someone's head off. He can box NICELY I've seen him do it against Spinks and Chop Chop. That version of Zab ain't something to f.uck around with. Only one problem, that version Zab is boring to watch

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        • #24
          Originally posted by El Dominicano View Post
          Zab is a really good fighter when he ain't tryin to take someone's head off. He can box NICELY I've seen him do it against Spinks and Chop Chop. That version of Zab ain't something to f.uck around with. Only one problem, that version Zab is boring to watch
          u dont get that version of zab..... he cant control when to turn it on or off....... ull never know..... but hatton and pac are consistnt to say the least..... zab isnt always determined..... therefore, he loses

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          • #25
            Originally posted by a-raines21 View Post
            u dont get that version of zab..... he cant control when to turn it on or off....... ull never know..... but hatton and pac are consistnt to say the least..... zab isnt always determined..... therefore, he loses
            Yep you might be right about that. Still Zab doesn't bring anything at 147 he should stick to what he planned and be a Jr WW

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            • #26
              Originally posted by Thadrow View Post
              LMAO.

              You seriously think Pac hits harder than Marg?

              Marg comes into the ring well above 147. Pac at WW comes in at 147-148, no way he hits harder than Marg.
              lol dumbass...you think a guy who comes into the ring at 155-160lbs necessarily hits harder than guy comes in at 147-150lbs?

              that's a 7-10lbs difference how do you explain tyson coming in at 215lbs and hitting harder than his 260-280lbs opponents with a 60lbs difference?

              negligible weight like that doesn't have much bearing on how hard you hit. i'm sure prince naseem hit harder than a lot of middleweights.

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              • #27
                Zab used to be fast enough to make it a fight though he was never disciplined enough to capitalize. Now he isn't fast enough either.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by Fulcrum29 View Post
                  lol dumbass...you think a guy who comes into the ring at 155-160lbs necessarily hits harder than guy comes in at 147-150lbs?

                  that's a 7-10lbs difference how do you explain tyson coming in at 215lbs and hitting harder than his 260-280lbs opponents with a 60lbs difference?

                  negligible weight like that doesn't have much bearing on how hard you hit. i'm sure prince naseem hit harder than a lot of middleweights.
                  this is margarito and pac. its obvious marg hits harder than pac. about the weight, i said it to further explain what i meant. pac does not have WW power

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by dino View Post
                    Including Pacquaio and Hatton, I don't see anybody beating Judah at 140, before you idiots try to bash me and talk about Judah's losses, 140's elite can't move up and beat Clottey or Cotto either, I had him beating Baldomir by 2 rounds.

                    Zab Judah has the tools to beat mostly anyone but he doesn't, and thats because he's got flaws you can't teach Heart/Weak Mentality/Weak Concentration.

                    Im not joking here but i could say i've got the tools to beat Antonio Margarito, im more athletic im faster ETC. But i know i couldn't take advantage of it, it doesn't matter what talent you have.

                    If you haven't got heart aswell as the other things i stated above, you will never get to the top without all of those things above.

                    The only reason Zab Judah is around is because of how good his athletism is. He is completely missing the mental part of the sport, and i don't know that i would even make him favorite against the upcoming prospects at 140, like Devon Alexander, Victor Ortiz.

                    Let alone guys like Ricky Hatton, Manny Pacquaio, you need to be concentrated on your opponent form 3 minutes of the round. Thats why guys like Winky Wright, Floyd Mayweather Jr, are so great.

                    There always concentrating on there opponent, and they never lose there concentration no matter what there opponent throws at them. Zab Judah was easily beating Carlos Baldomir until he lost his concentration completely and thats one his biggest flaws.

                    And if he can't keep concentration with all his experience as a fighter, then theres no reason to believe he will do it in the future.
                    Last edited by Burning Desire; 02-02-2009, 05:36 AM.

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                    • #30
                      pacquiaos speed kills, speed is stronger than power in tha later rounds, and people underestimate pacquiaos head movement, chin, stamina, and foot work, plus hes a southpaw and hes still getting better, he probably isnt even at his prime yet. any boxer/trainer would even say speed is more important than strength and of course besides speed, good technical boxing skills and building experience. for example, tyson and roy jones, they never lost their strength but they relied on speed and when they lost it they were done. experience and heart is what you need when you get in your later years, like hopkins, mosley is old but still has that experience heart and his great speed. hopkins even sed it on one of the videos here after the calzaghe jones fight "roy was never a technical boxer, he kept relying on his speed tonight and he just didnt have his reflexes anymore, he couldnt land and move how he wanted to, thats the difference between me and roy, im a boxer hes a showboater, he didnt know what to do after a while, he never learned how to be a boxer" and bhop is right and you know that he is.
                      i dont see pacquiao boxing more than 2 more years from now. and zab juda, yea he would dominate 140 like 3 , 4 years ago, but honestly hes done. and i was a zab fan. i mean come on, didnt you see him in the calzaghe jones undercard, he was terrible lol
                      Last edited by kocface; 02-02-2009, 06:18 AM.

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