Zab Judah vs. Carlos Quintana is Being Discussed

[larryx]

154. Against Ryan Davis for the vacant IBC light middleweight title.

It didn't surprise me you didn't know you seem to know very little about boxing outside of the superfights.

ibc????lmfao...and i know very little

[EL ANIMAL]

Judah v.s berto is all i care about!!! Thats a must see for boxing!!!! Wow,, thats a tough one to call!! Literally a toss up!!
I wanna see zab talk **** in bertos face!! I wanna see how berto takes it,, and how he reacts in the ring!

[120]

Judah v.s berto is all i care about!!! Thats a must see for boxing!!!! Wow,, thats a tough one to call!! Literally a toss up!!
I wanna see zab talk **** in bertos face!! I wanna see how berto takes it,, and how he reacts in the ring!

must see for boxing you say?

[Fox McCloud]

Judah or Quintana would be good fights for Berto, if Judah can show up in shape and focused, he could win this fight.

I'm just really tired of saying if Judah can show up in shape and focused, he could win this fight...

I say that about every big fight he has, and he just doesn't ever show up in shape and focused... that or the whole theory about that being all he needs to win is just wrong.

Wait i thought Zab went down and CQ went up!?

**** it nice fight and its a pick em! Two of my top fighters.

I could see Zab getting a KO tho i think

That's the first thing I thought when I heard about this fight. I thought Judah was going down to 140 and Quintana was going up to 154. Weird...

154. Against Ryan Davis for the vacant IBC light middleweight title.

It didn't surprise me you didn't know you seem to know very little about boxing outside of the superfights.

Wow... what a silly thing to say.

[Silencers]

I'm just really tired of saying if Judah can show up in shape and focused, he could win this fight...

I say that about every big fight he has, and he just doesn't ever show up in shape and focused... that or the whole theory about that being all he needs to win is just wrong.

Yeah, it can be said for pretty much all his loses, it's not the only thing he needs to win big fights, he really needs a better corner and a better trainer to tighten up some things but he definitely needs to focus, if he can put it all together, he can still be a top guy.

[Fox McCloud]

Yeah, it can be said for pretty much all his loses, it's not the only thing he needs to win big fights, he really needs a better corner and a better trainer to tighten up some things but he definitely needs to focus, if he can put it all together, he can still be a top guy.

You know what? I disagree.

Judah is easily the fastest guy in the sport, but the things that set someone like Mayweather (who people say wins with speed, which is just untrue, and I'll explain why in a moment) apart from Judah are the following:

Judah lacks accuracy, so he can throw blinding punches that don't hit where they are supposed to, so a lot of that speed goes to waste. I would rather have slow Zaragoza like reflexes with good accuracy and timing rather than fast, wild Judah who misses a lot.

Judah lacks defense. He is awfully fast, and supposively slick, but my god, he is really easy to hit for some reason.

The biggest thing Judah lacks is composure. He folds when pressured (Baldomir, Mayweather, Cotto), and he gets overexcited when things are going well (Tszyu). Have you seen the way he fights when he gets a guy hurt? It is just painful to watch. He looks like an idiot winging those punches. Why does he not stick to short, fast and straight punches to take the hurt fighter out instead of resorting to throwing punches that most amateurs know better than to throw?

[Silencers]

You know what? I disagree.

Judah is easily the fastest guy in the sport, but the things that set someone like Mayweather (who people say wins with speed, which is just untrue, and I'll explain why in a moment) apart from Judah are the following:

Judah lacks accuracy, so he can throw blinding punches that don't hit where they are supposed to, so a lot of that speed goes to waste. I would rather have slow Zaragoza like reflexes with good accuracy and timing rather than fast, wild Judah who misses a lot.

Judah lacks defense. He is awfully fast, and supposively slick, but my god, he is really easy to hit for some reason.

The biggest thing Judah lacks is composure. He folds when pressured (Baldomir, Mayweather, Cotto), and he gets overexcited when things are going well (Tszyu). Have you seen the way he fights when he gets a guy hurt? It is just painful to watch. He looks like an idiot winging those punches. Why does he not stick to short, fast and straight punches to take the hurt fighter out instead of resorting to throwing punches that most amateurs know better than to throw?

The things that you have mentioned were all there when he was a young fighter fighting out of the Duva camp when his father wasn't his trainer, I think it was either Brooks or Shields that was training him and was in his corner, watching fights of him before leaving the Duva camp, you can see why he was such an exciting prospect. The accuracy, the defense, the composure was there, he lost a lot of it when he and his father decided to part with the Duva camp and go on by themselves.

I think with the right trainer, somebody like Mayweather Sr., who won't tolerate his **** while teaching him constructive things in camp and giving him good instructions in the corner, he can still be a top guy but I doubt it'll happen.

[The Fix]

zabdiel via KO

[GRUSTLER]

ibc????lmfao...and i know very little

I was a little confused when I read that one as well because I can't recollect Zab Judah fighting at 154. To my Knowledge he held titles at 140/147. & I never heard of the IBC either.

[L.E.X]

Excellent a chance for Zab to get back in the mix!
Zab is a bit to quick and will be able to land big on Quintana and i dont rate Carlos' chin overly high Zab by mid round KO, probably in 4 rounds actually


I started a Zab Judah group if anybody id intrested in joining?