Wladimir Klitschko-David Haye Could Head To Germany?

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    #41
    Haye will defo have to knock him out to win.

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    • Dave Rado
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      #42
      Originally posted by timba1988
      I dont care where this fight is. Who actually thinks it will go to the scorecards anyway?
      I agree it's unlikely but it's not a complete impossibility. Both have good boxing skills (Haye's are widely underrated, IMO), and both know they have weak chins that they will therefore try to protect.

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      • Sparked_1985
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        #43
        I hope not.

        Stamford Bridge is where is should happen.

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          #44
          Originally posted by Addition
          Haye will defo have to knock him out to win.
          No, that's not true. But the fight isn't going the distance anyway.

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            #45
            Originally posted by ~Tunney
            No, that's not true. But the fight isn't going the distance anyway.
            Haye WILL need a KO to win. But you're right, it's not going the distance anyway. I can see Wlad jabbing him into a bloody wobbly mess before closing the show. I just hope he doesn't fight like a girl.

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              #46
              Originally posted by ~Tunney
              No, that's not true. But the fight isn't going the distance anyway.
              In fairness, you have to assume Wlad piles up the rounds anyway with his jab. Haye is there purely on a seek and destroy mission. The only rounds he wins are if Wlad is either knocked down, knocked out, or on borrowed legs.

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              • Dave Rado
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                #47
                Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                In fairness, you have to assume Wlad piles up the rounds anyway with his jab. Haye is there purely on a seek and destroy mission. The only rounds he wins are if Wlad is either knocked down, knocked out, or on borrowed legs.
                I think you're underestimating Haye's boxing skills and speed. IMO everything depends on whether Haye comes up with a good gameplan to negate Klitschko's jab using lateral movement, and to counter it - and on whether he can be self-disciplined in implementing that gameplan (I think lack of self-discipline has been his biggest problem in the past). If he makes it a tear up, he'll lose, because Klitschko's jab is too good and he has learnt how to fight tall - and Haye knows that, he's an intelligent fighter (except when he gets over-excited and forgets his gameplan).

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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Dave Rado
                  I think you're underestimating Haye's boxing skills and speed. IMO everything depends on whether Haye comes up with a good gameplan to negate Klitschko's jab using lateral movement, and to counter it - and on whether he can be self-disciplined in implementing that gameplan (I think lack of self-discipline has been his biggest problem in the past). If he makes it a tear up, he'll lose, because Klitschko's jab is too good and he has learnt how to fight tall - and Haye knows that, he's an intelligent fighter (except when he gets over-excited and forgets his gameplan).
                  I hope you're right.

                  But I'm scratching my head to remember a round where Wlad was outboxed. He is a brilliant boxer, and master of mid and long distance fighting. Haye is a very relaxed fighter but Wlad dictates the tempo of every fight with that jab- not exciting but effective.

                  I like Haye. But in my mind, any success he is relies on him consistantly hurting big Wlad.

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Sparked_1985
                    I hope you're right.

                    But I'm scratching my head to remember a round where Wlad was outboxed. He is a brilliant boxer, and master of mid and long distance fighting. Haye is a very relaxed fighter but Wlad dictates the tempo of every fight with that jab- not exciting but effective.

                    I like Haye. But in my mind, any success he is relies on him consistantly hurting big Wlad.
                    Wladimir has a great jab but is by no means a brilliant boxer. His size, coupled with his technique (the one Manny teaches all his big, long fighters) makes him very effective however. He still isn't a very fluid combination or counter-puncher - not until his confidence is soaring anyway.

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                    • Mr. Philadel
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                      #50
                      all Haye has to do is attack Wlad with angles......speed kills so Haye should do well against this Klitch.....

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