..If Hatton Beats Pacquiao, He's Not Number One...

[Weebler I]

He would need more than that to become number one. If he managed to take out, for example, Pacquiao and Mayweather, then there'd be a definite argument.

there would be a definite argument for him being the GOAT if that happened

[THe TRiNiTY]

there would be a definite argument for him being the GOAT if that happened

.....Jump off a bridge. How dare you EVER say that in my thread.

[THe TRiNiTY]

Based on teh present top 10 he should moved to 6th, then upto 4th when Calzaghe and Bhop retire.

I'm not sure how Mosley who hasn't been top 10 in what 5 years? Manages to jump to 6 having beaten a fight who himself only made top 10 for the first time on the back of his last fight.

Then you have guys like Darchinyan who has been a belt holder for the best part of 3 years and just spanked the No1 in his division and doesn't even make top 10.

Darchinyan is a possible top 15. The problem is Mosley beat someone in the middle of the list. Darchinyan beat someone near the tail end. So, he's moved up considerably, but you can't see it in the first 10 to 12. I have him top 20.

[Weebler I]

.....Jump off a bridge. How dare you EVER say that in my thread.

so he beats Tszyu, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Castillo and his record stands at 47-1 and you wouldn't consider him a contender for GOAT?

[THe TRiNiTY]

so he beats Tszyu, Mayweather, Pacquiao, Castillo and his record stands at 47-1 and you wouldn't consider him a contender for GOAT?

No, top 35 or 50 (under those circumstances), but not number one.

I can think of CURRENT fighters that would have better resumes, forget me pulling up legends like Robinson, Leonard, Louis etc. etc.

[Weebler I]

No, top 35 or 50 (under those circumstances), but not number one.

I can think of CURRENT fighters that would have better resumes, forget me pulling up legends like Robinson, Leonard, Louis etc. etc.

who?

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[The C.E.O.]

First...Hatton will not beat Pacquiao...and I'll be betting the house on it.

Just like I bet the house on Mayweather against him...

but IF this British fantasy result were to somehow happen....I'd move Hatton up to #11 on a Top 20 P4P list....because I have him somewhere between 15 and 20 right now....

He is just not a P4P boxer...that's a FACT.

The only reason he's in the Top 20 now is because he's still got the belts at 140...

[hammerhiem]

who?

BHop, Mayweather, Pac, Holyfield.

Calzaghe, RJJ, Mosley on achievments

I'm a Hatton fan but jesus dude you make me want to hate on the guy.

[bsrizpac2]

I'm a decent-sized fan of Ricky Hatton.

Decent guy, decent boxer. Nothing really to hate. However, the one problem I have with him (or perhaps his fans) is that they think that beating the number one guy makes you the number one guy. It doesn't.

You can look at recent history if you'd like some proof. Jermain Taylor beat Bernard Hopkins, and he wasn't number one. Antonio Tarver beat Roy Jones in a much more impactful way then Ricky will ever beat Manny Pacquiao and he wasn't number one. It's just not how the game goes.

You get higher on the list, and by natural order, you will rank higher then the former 'king', but you don't go to the top. Just doesn't happen. Generally, number two would go to number one, and that would be Juan Manuel Marquez. Or Joe Calzaghe to some, which raises another point. Realistically, Ricky might still be number two p4p in the U.K. Let alone the world.

Think about it within other sports. Right now, the number one team in the NBA is the Boston Celtics, now they are currently going to be facing the Detroit Pistons, who arewhere within the top 10, or so. If the Pistons win, it's a GREAT win and they will improve their standing to a degree, but they don't automatically become number one.

Now, basketball and boxing are different, in the sense that boxing is more decisive, event to event. However, if one truly wanted to, one could make the argument that Manny could still reasonably be HIGHER than Hatton if Hatton wins in a close, boring, controversial fight. Because p4p isn't about who wins, persay. It's about who you beat, but also how you beat them. When did you beat them? Were they intheir natural weight class? What type of upside do you have and what are your passed accomplishments?

You can tell this type of thinking goes into play when a fighter can lose a close fight people expected him to lose and his rating still goes up.

I'd rank Hatton higher, because he is already within the p4p top 10. But, the case could respectably be made.

Nonetheless, higher doesn't mean number one. He could go from number 9, to about number 5 or so, Manny would/could drop to about number 6, pushing out Celestino Caballero. Because to push him above Vazquez, Hopkins, Calzaghe and Marquez for ONE fight would be a bit ridiculous in my book. Especially since the guy who WOULD be in number one gave Manny the toughest challenge did it at Manny's most promising weight, atleast by what we can tell.

Hatton would go higher, but not higher than 5 in my opinion. Just the way it goes.

Vote. Discuss.

Was Tarver Number 1 after he beat Roy? NO. Next ****** question.

[bsrizpac2]

who?

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Fat and ****** is no way to go through life son.