How will future history see Roy/Hopkins/Calzaghe?
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until they actually bother to search in things like youtube(which will probabley be moved to another site or be alot more sofisticated and advanced) and realise how/why the order of these 3 fighters goI'm talking like 30, 40, 50 years down the line.
As uncanny as this may seem, there are actually boxing fans who get their information only from boxrec - hard to believe, I know - and when it comes down to it, in 2060 when we're no longer here or pissing in our pants in an old folk's home, someone's gonna be boxrecing Joe Blow and all they'll see is "W Hopkins" and "W Roy".
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Put a burger in it fat yank. You've got to be ****ing deluded you inbred hick, if you think Popkins has more talent than Calzaghe.
Nuke the US!!!.



Allah Akbar!!!
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Listen you sweet ****head...my opinion is consider as close to law around here as it gets-I think you would agree-so...here it is.
You can make a case for all three-I could tell you why Bernard is better then Joe and Roy and then I could turn around and tell you why Roy or Joe is better then Bhop etc.
Folks from the US are going to point out that Joe beat Roy and Bernard when they were old men...even though it is damn tough to pin down exactly when Bernard's actual prime took place-for example was Bernard in his physical prime against Jones and Mercado...yeah he probably was...was he at his best when he was in his physical prime? No....technically and mentally speaking was he at his best vs. Calzaghe-yup...was he in his physical prime...nope-Like I said NArd is tough to nail down. So it was the Tito fight that the perfect Nard appeared right? Yup I think thats right but can you make the case Tito never ever was an elite fighter at middleweight-of course you can in fact you have to be a ****** not to understand where someone who claimed that was coming from...lets not forget he became a champ by knocking out William Joppy? If you could combine Nard's physical prime with his technical one I think you have the best of the three-hell you may have the best fighter of all time but you cant and Nard was who he was when he was...
The knock on Roy is that we never got to see Roy really dig deep-I know the Roy boys are going to bring up the last couple rounds against Tarver in the 1st fight (and maybe they are right BTW)...saying he was drainined and he had to gut out those last couple rounds but I would say Tarver was a lazy **** in that fight and for many different fights in his career and it was awfully easy to gut it out against a guy who simply refused to let his hands go-I dont know if Roy ever made a big adjustment in a fight to win-maybe he was so great he never had to. Also look at some of the Roy Jones opposition while in his prime...some of the matchups were very questionalbe yet HBO kept bending over enjoying Roys 5.35 inch penis lodged right inside of thier ass. With that said he holds wins over James Toney and Bernard Hopkins and it was one of the largest shocks of my boxing life when Tarver caught him in the second-I like many others thought he was some kind of invincible...not sure If Roy had us fooled all of those p4p years or not.
The skinny on Joe is-the ****er talked about coming to the US for over a decade...he talked about it to an annoying extent-it was almost like shut the **** up and get on a ****ing plane and fight over here....he fought a number of undeserving mandatory defenses to make sure he never lost his WBO strap-a belt in which for along time he put too much stock in. Some will also point to Joe's knack for not landing real clean shots and pitter patting a bit (although earlier in his career he could sting a bit more)...he will get knocked by some and praised by others who may say his brittle hands made him that way-I would say that his incredible conditioning and crazy fast hands were the reason for the pitty pat...kind of like a football team with a great offensive line tends to run the ball instead of pass...Joe used what he had...Joe may be the best in fight thinker of the bunch-yes even better then Hopkins and his heart has most certainly been tested most inside the square ring but was he the best? Not so sure.
All in all I can knock all three and I can praise all three...if your from across the pond you may find it easier to go with the Welshman...if your from the states you like one of the two brothas...
Me-Ill say this for the US crowd...Joe would have presented style problems for Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins...any version of Roy Jones and Bernard Hopkins! All three are icons and I could see any of them beating each other prime for prime on any given saturday night-howz that for a ***** answer.
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Scap, I appreciate you're a burger-eating Fat Yank but even so I credited you with a bit of intelligence and you surprised me here.
The question is not whether Roy was better when he had his roids, or Hopkins headbutting was P4P skills, or Joe fighting them both when they were 97 made a difference, but simply...
how will twats 50 years from now see it?Comment
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Fact: Joe Calzaghe was the BEST MW-LHW fighter of his generation (proved it in the ring) and will be remembered as such, just not by his haters, trolls and alts on message boards.Comment
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You serious? He hasn't even fought a legitimate LHW yet (unless you're counting a washed-up Roy)Comment
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