I Think Margarito Took a Dive!

[DrewWoodside]

The thing that wasn't right about the fight was that Margarito got caught cheating. Don't try to put it off on someone else. It shouldn't have surprised you in hindsight that Margarito lost so many rounds. Look at his last few fights against good comp. He lost the first 4 rounds to Clottey. He lost about the first 7 or 8 rounds to Williams. He lost 5 of the first 6 rounds to Cotto.

Don't act like the fact he lost 8 out of 9 rounds to Mosley means that there must have been something else going on. He just didn't find a way this time and the lack of plaster of Paris may have played a big role in that.

You do realize that according to this thread, the Plaster of Paris is supposed to distract you? Think about it.

[DrewWoodside]

wow, 24 people actually believe this guy.

Charlie Zelenoff has spoken on the "Margarito-Dive" Situation..: http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/sh...=241514&page=3 He thinks Shane beat Margs straight up but.. To be fair Zelenoffs favorite fighter is Mosley so.. Gotta take that with a grain of salt.

[kadyo's]

If margo intended to take a dive, then why was he caught loading his glove with some hard substance? That in itself is already a contradiction to what the thread starter is trying to insinuate.

[DrewWoodside]

If margo intended to take a dive, then why was he caught loading his glove with some hard substance? That in itself is already a contradiction to what the thread starter is trying to insinuate.

Post #201 page 21 explains this for the hundredth time.

[Ray*]

Sorry to repost the same thing again but people keep missing what seems to be a reasonable explanation for the handwraps and the dive together..:

Ok.. Lets look at the clues:

1.) The week Margarito is supposed to sign the contract for this fight he goes missing. Several boxing fans fear he was kidnapped or fell victim to drug cartels. (Anyone reading boxingscene the week before this fight was official will remember this. It seemed ridiculous then but it might make sense in light recent events) Perhaps he was busy negotiating the dive with the Arellano Drug Cartel.
2.) The Alibi: Margarito allows himself to be caught redhanded with loaded handwraps in a fight he is considered a heavy favorite. Likely an effort to draw attention away from the dive.
3.) Most fans did not even recognize the fighter in the ring that night. A lot of insiders and fans acknowledge he did not look like Margarito. Punch output was suspect.
4.) The confession: "I wanted to get knocked out!" Sounds like he went in there with a gameplan.
5.) The Arellano drug cartel is a vicious and ruthless organization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tijuana_Cartel

Consider it.

It just doesnt fit in the way you wanted it to fit in mate, It would have to involve alot of people for Margarito to take a dive including Mosley trainer Nasim Richardson who actually notice the wrap according to reports.

Margarito lost just like cotto lost nobody is unbeatable, We dont need to find excuses like "He didnt look like Margarito" in there....well he didnt look like paris hilton either.

I just hope he gets cleared on all those wrap or no wrapping rumours..

[Mr. Philadel]

this thread needs to take a dive

co-sign.....

[DrewWoodside]

It just doesnt fit in the way you wanted it to fit in mate, It would have to involve alot of people for Margarito to take a dive including Mosley trainer Nasim Richardson who actually notice the wrap according to reports.

Margarito lost just like cotto lost nobody is unbeatable, We dont need to find excuses like "He didnt look like Margarito" in there....well he didnt look like paris hilton either.

I just hope he gets cleared on all those wrap or no wrapping rumours..

The thing is I don't think ****m would need to be in on it b/c if they were trying to get caught they would do it in a way where he could see something was fishy in the handwraps. At which point ****m would automatically respond. Look, i'm not saying this crazy **** happened but I thought the thread was interesting and wanted to explore the idea.

[circleinsidebox]

i had a talk with my friend last nite who is mexican, she is from
tampico mexico, she has been all over the world and knows a grip
about mexican gangs and the drug underworld, she doesnt follow
boxing at all but i presented her with this story about margarito
and the history behind the fight such as maragarito having one of
the best chins in boxing, he just beat the #1 welter in the division
, he was pretty much seen as unbeatable and unstoppable literally....
and how mosley was 37 past his prime and while viewed as able
to give margarito a tough fight, he wasn't looked at by many to win...
and how margarito was a 4-1 favorite...after i explained all that
she proceeded to say, i kno who kould be involved....
she simply say the "Arrelano" and my mouth dropped wide open
i kouldnt believe what she had just said....
i have been back and forth in this thread and i was never really
sold on this idea but not completely naive to its possiblities
but when she said that and began to explain to me how that family
works and how they buy athletes and arrange matches and how
they operate etc. etc.. im starting to believe more...
one thing about the fight that nobody fails to mention, was a
very honest reaction that could point to some sort of foul play going on
after a certain round, i can't remember which 1 specifically but margarito
goes back to his corner and sits down, his trainer looks at him and
say "what is wrong with you ?" "are you tired?" margarito of kourse responded
no he was fine...but that right there made me think a little....
its almost as if margarito wasn't even trying

[DrewWoodside]

i had a talk with my friend last nite who is mexican, she is from
tampico mexico, she has been all over the world and knows a grip
about mexican gangs and the drug underworld, she doesnt follow
boxing at all but i presented her with this story about margarito
and the history behind the fight such as maragarito having one of
the best chins in boxing, he just beat the #1 welter in the division
, he was pretty much seen as unbeatable and unstoppable literally....
and how mosley was 37 past his prime and while viewed as able
to give margarito a tough fight, he wasn't looked at by many to win...
and how margarito was a 4-1 favorite...after i explained all that
she proceeded to say, i kno who kould be involved....
she simply say the "Arrelano" and my mouth dropped wide open
i kouldnt believe what she had just said....
i have been back and forth in this thread and i was never really
sold on this idea but not completely naive to its possiblities
but when she said that and began to explain to me how that family
works and how they buy athletes and arrange matches and how
they operate etc. etc.. im starting to believe more...
one thing about the fight that nobody fails to mention, was a
very honest reaction that could point to some sort of foul play going on
after a certain round, i can't remember which 1 specifically but margarito
goes back to his corner and sits down, his trainer looks at him and
say "what is wrong with you ?" "are you tired?" margarito of kourse responded
no he was fine...but that right there made me think a little....
its almost as if margarito wasn't even trying

And again the plot thickens.. Messed up part is no one is actually investigating this possibility.. Just lowly boxingscene!

[Ray*]

And again the plot thickens.. Messed up part is no one is actually investigating this possibility.. Just lowly boxingscene!

Well nobody is going to investigate it because its a ridiculous suggestion, If they do investigate the fight then they have to investigate all other fights that involves a mexican losing.

Its difficult to take a dive in this day and age without a lot of su****ious going around it, i just dont buy it for a second because if its true then boxing is dead.