who has gone 5 divisions and dominated every division???

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  • Left Hook Tua
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    #111
    Originally posted by KOTheFat
    But they didn't dominate 5 divisions

    True story. Oh yeah and I despise the Pack more than any other team besides the Rams. As a matter fact I think I am the only one to answer larryx's question.
    armstrong could have in the modern day.

    armstrong won the world title at 126 in 1937 and 147 and 135 in 1938.

    if there was a 130 and 140 division back in the day he could have possibly dominated 5 divisions.

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    • BennyST
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      #112
      Originally posted by cortdawg25
      where your source....cause i got interviews at home with them being mentioned at 135.
      Freitas was a title holder at 130 from 1999 until the end of 2003 when he finally moved up to LW. He held the WBO title

      Joel Casamayor was also a title holder at 130 from 1999 until 2004. He was the other main title holder in that he held the WBA strap until losing it to Freitas whenever they fought.

      Neither of these guys moved up to 135 until much later well after Floyd had left. It's actually rather difficult to say he even dominated his supposed 'best' division as, apart from Hernandez and Corrales, none of the fighters he fought there were the top guys. Certainly Casamayor and Freitas were title holders the entire time Floyd was in those divisions and Casamayor was the other 'major' strap holder that whole time.

      Anyway, none of it really matters anymore. You'll have guys who say he is the best ever and those that say he blows ass. I think the simple reality is that he was a very good fighter that also had very good management and business skills but missed out on doing a lot as well in terms of legacy. I think the one big problem in terms of many of the guys he fought was that most of them had already well and truly beaten by guys long before Floyd fought them. Really, only Corrales and Hatton hadn't been. But some of his biggest wins were against guys that had been dominated well previously by much better fighters. Judah KO'd in two by Tszyu as well as beaten in his fight right before Floyd. Mitchell was old and had also been beaten and knocked out by Tszyu twice years earlier in is prime. Hernandez was TKO'd by Oscar years earlier as well. Even Castillo had been knocked out four times previous to their fight and had a pretty dodgy draw decision given him against Jonhson which was initially awarded to Johnson. Gatti was old and tired and had been beaten badly a number of times before. You know, I can understand why people think he's so good, but it's also very easy to see why people call him very overrated.
      Last edited by BennyST; 01-29-2009, 05:21 AM.

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      • Left Hook Tua
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        #113
        Originally posted by BennyST
        Freitas was a title holder at 130 from 1999 until the end of 2003 when he finally moved up to LW. He held the WBO title

        Joel Casamayor was also a title holder at 130 from 1999 until 2004. He was the other main title holder in that he held the WBA strap until losing it to Freitas whenever they fought.

        Neither of these guys moved up to 135 until much later well after Floyd had left. It's actually rather difficult to say he even dominated his supposed 'best' division as, apart from Hernandez and Corrales, none of the fighters he fought there were the top guys. Certainly Casamayor and Freitas were title holders the entire time Floyd was in those divisions and Casamayor was the other 'major' strap holder that whole time.

        Anyway, none of it really matters anymore. You'll have guys who say he is the best ever and those that say he blows ass. I think the simple reality is that he was a very good fighter that also had very good management and business skills but missed out on doing a lot as well in terms of legacy.
        how would you rate floyd if he had beat casamayor and freitas at 130 , spadafora and johnston at 135 , kostya at 140 and cotto and marg at 147 and maybe shane at 154?

        imagine. he could have beat those guys. i think kostya in his prime can beat floyd but the kostya in 2004-2005 floyd could've beat. floyd could beat the shane from 2006-2007 as well.

        130 - wins over genaro , diego , casa and freitas
        135 - wins over castillo , spadafora and johnston
        140 - wins over kostya , gatti
        147 - wins over zab , hatton , cotto and marg.
        154 - wins over delahoya and shane.

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        • Sugar May Floyd
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          #114
          Simply no one. I see Williams doing it. Best WW and Jr MW in the world. After that stint, he fight best at 160 and 168. And finally stop Dawson's run at 175 and might do a RJJ

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            #115
            Originally posted by larryx
            you're right..but i cant stand people who hate cause their life is pathetic
            Yet you did the same,
            with Margarito.

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            • mannypac22
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              #116
              I think Sugar ray leonard he won belts in all 5 of the divisions he fought at and defended them

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                #117
                Originally posted by larryx
                answer nobody..people have won titles but seriously who has dominated and cleaned out 5 divisions???no 1,,,so why ask that about floyd..thats just dumb
                You need a lot of this...

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                  #118
                  Originally posted by Sugar May Floyd
                  Simply no one. I see Williams doing it. Best WW and Jr MW in the world. After that stint, he fight best at 160 and 168. And finally stop Dawson's run at 175 and might do a RJJ
                  You're one boring delusional costumer....

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                  • Left Hook Tua
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                    #119
                    Originally posted by FasTHarD
                    You need a lot of this...
                    yes. yes he does.

                    lol hahaha

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                    • Miburo
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                      #120
                      Mayweather perhaps could have (welterweight is maybe somewhat questionable, with the likes of Williams hanging over the division), but from 135 he began climbing divisions rapidly.

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