Hatton vs Pacquiao: Dont Be Suprised If Hatton Wins

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  • hammerhiem
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    #21
    Originally posted by fcastro1
    people seem to realy diregard pacs last two performances.
    They should, he fought a journeyman and a corpse.

    Malinaggi could and would have beaten both of them let alone Hatton.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Technical_Skill
      I agree, Pac isnt as left handed as he once was, but Hatton will bring a challenge very different to the one posed by de la hoya. De la hoya was totally fried in that fight with Pacquiao.
      hatton is a devestating body puncher and the way he shifts to the side to give himself angles to throw his his straights and hooks is impressive. if pac does not come up with aplan to counter this then it will be a tear up and who knows wins. but i can see pac using the mosely tactic by keeping his distance and once in close just grabbing. the way floyd did to hatton. so hatton cant work up close.

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        #23
        I wont be surprised, im actually picking Ricky to win.


        REALLY close fight to pick a winner tho at least to me

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          #24
          Originally posted by hammerhiem
          They should, he fought a journeyman and a corpse.

          Malinaggi could and would have beaten both of them let alone Hatton.
          diaz was a world champ and an olympian. delahoya 6 weight world champ.stop making excuses that was a great victory.

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          • Roger Mellie
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            #25
            Originally posted by Technical_Skill
            Why are people talking like this fight will be a forgone conclusion? I got alot of respect for Manny and have no problem in him being the favorite, his speed, power and performance at the higher weights rightly means he is getting the respect he deserves in the pre fight build up. But people are concentrating too much on Hatton's flaws and not looking at the issues with Pacquaio.

            1) Pacquiao is not Floyd Mayweather Jr, I dont think Ricky Hatton will ever fight against anyone with that level of skill ever again. Simply referring to the mayweather fight as proof a quick fighter will destroy hatton doesnt wash. Mayweather's timing was on another level to anyone else and he was alot more effective on the inside then hatton expected. When ricky was able to close distance on Floyd and get inside, he met a series of elbows, forearms and a fighter who would shoulder roll to create space and counter on the inside. I highly doubt pacquaio possess the threat to hatton on the inside that floyd did.

            2) If Hatton gets Inside Pacquaio how will Manny cope? Im expecting moments in the fight where Hatton is going to close distance on Pacquaio, how will he cope as hatton comes in with the smothering, bodyshots, rough-house tactics, is he slick enough to not get hit and manovure his way out of there unscathed?

            3) What happens If Ricky moves away from the left hand? To me Pac isnt as quick to fire the shots if a guy isnt right in the line of the left hand lead. Marquez used this to his advantage by moving away from the left hand, effectivley shutting down pac's output, then planting jabs and right hands on him. If ricky moves away from the left, is pacquiao going to have a plan B this time?

            I think Ricky is being underestimated due to fact that people neglect the damage he could do to pacquiao once inside, ricky isnt going to be the stationary target oscar de la hoya was, he is actually quite quick in cutting down distance and coming in with lead hooks. I agree that Pacquiao is most likely the favorite if the fight is fought on the outside, but if Hatton backs him up, he could win the fight.
            brilliant post.the fact is we have 2 brilliant fighters that are going to have a fight,and in all the rhetoric that has come out since the fight was made,the one thing that seems to have been lost is that at some point in the fight pacman is going to get hit properly because he isnt a slick defensive fighter or anywhere near to being,and hatton CAN hurt him.to me this fight is 50-50...just like the original split!

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              #26
              Originally posted by fcastro1
              using the mosely tactic by keeping his distance and once in close just grabbing. the way floyd did to hatton. so hatton cant work up close.
              Yeah, But pac is nothing like floyd on the inside, and Hatton has far quicker footspeed then Margarito. In the floyd fight, early on, floyd couldnt stop hatton getting to him but once hatton got closer, floyd was clever inside and his timing was unreal. Im not sure if pac can stop hatton getting close, maybe he can, but i think people are taking it for granted that pac will just be able to dance around the ring landing at will.

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                #27
                Originally posted by fcastro1
                i can see pac using the mosely tactic by keeping his distance and once in close just grabbing. the way floyd did to hatton. so hatton cant work up close.
                It's been tried against hatton numerous times, the only one who came close to sucseeding was Collazo and thats because he so much bigger than Hatton.

                If pac tries that he is in for a world of hurt, Rickys counter to that tactic is to push his right hand in between the boxers and muscle out hop left and deliver a bodyshot before the opponent drops his elbows again.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by fcastro1
                  diaz was a world champ and an olympian. delahoya 6 weight world champ.stop making excuses that was a great victory.
                  Name Diaz's best win other than a shot Morales.

                  Oscar was more shot than JFK.

                  Calzaghe rightly gets no credit for beating a shot RJJ who was 10x more live than Oscar.

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Technical_Skill
                    Yeah, But pac is nothing like floyd on the inside, and Hatton has far quicker footspeed then Margarito. In the floyd fight, early on, floyd couldnt stop hatton getting to him but once hatton got closer, floyd was clever inside and his timing was unreal. Im not sure if pac can stop hatton getting close, maybe he can, but i think people are taking it for granted that pac will just be able to dance around the ring landing at will.
                    thats my point pac will have to mix up his gameplan. stay on the outside use his jab and straight to keep hatton at a distance. but during the moments ricky is successfull in closing in he has to hold. so ricky has no rythm.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by fcastro1
                      thats my point pac will have to mix up his gameplan. stay on the outside use his jab and straight to keep hatton at a distance. but during the moments ricky is successfull in closing in he has to hold. so ricky has no rythm.
                      Okay, well perhaps the ref will play a big part in it then, cos if they let hatton do his thing inside, pac could have serious problems.

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