Did Margarito use Illegal Handwraps to beat Cotto? Poll!

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  • deemo
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    #171
    i said no simply from lack of evidence. if it is proven to be plaster then i will change my mind.

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    • Zocalo
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      #172
      Who knows....

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      • dondi330
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        #173
        Originally posted by raabd
        Yea but richardson was really adamate about the situation (that it was an illegal substance) which convinced the commission to do the investigation and made margarito rewrap his hands. How about the cotto camp or the NSAC not finding anything illegal when everyone was there to witness the wrapping of the hands? Again i'm not defending margarito IF he did anything illegal.
        Listen just because someone gets away with doing something Illegal doesn't make it right, It is entirely possible that other trainers could have overlooked it or even the fact that the guys that wrap Margarito's hands were good at concealing it.
        If someone is a good thief....they are still wrong.
        If someone gets away with murder ..they are still killers.
        If someone steals 28 cars and is busted stealing the 29 because it had low jack....doesn't make the owners of the 28 ****** because they didn't have lowjack.

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        • Zocalo
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          #174
          Originally posted by dondi330
          Listen just because someone gets away with doing something Illegal doesn't make it right, It is entirely possible that other trainers could have overlooked it or even the fact that the guys that wrap Margarito's hands were good at concealing it.
          If someone is a good thief....they are still wrong.
          If someone gets away with murder ..they are still killers.
          If someone steals 28 cars and is busted stealing the 29 because it had low jack....doesn't make the owners of the 28 ****** because they didn't have lowjack.
          You know maybe there was/is a blind faith that everyone will follow the rules in place because they are there for the safety of the boxers.

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          • JcourT
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            #175
            It seems pretty obvious to me. Why would he not cheat against someone who was supposed to be a tougher opponent (cotto) and risk cheating against someone who was supposedly less of an opponent (mosley)??

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            • raabd
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              #176
              Originally posted by dondi330
              Listen just because someone gets away with doing something Illegal doesn't make it right, It is entirely possible that other trainers could have overlooked it or even the fact that the guys that wrap Margarito's hands were good at concealing it.
              If someone is a good thief....they are still wrong.
              If someone gets away with murder ..they are still killers.
              If someone steals 28 cars and is busted stealing the 29 because it had low jack....doesn't make the owners of the 28 ****** because they didn't have lowjack.
              You say if someone gets away with doing something illegal it's wrong and I agree, but you don't know if he did anything wrong yet. How can you even argue when the facts are not in yet? IF margarito is found guilty I will be the first to condemn him. At the end of the day you still don't know what happened.

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              • Living Legend
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                #177
                Originally posted by cortdawg25
                if he did it aginst Mosley, he definitely did it against Cotto. Now that i think about it...cintron and ******* gomez should complain too!
                What about Lujan, he knocked dudes ear off... Most likely this is just something they tried for this fight and just got caught, because you see what the result was... like Mosley said before the fight was made... " Maybe Margarito pissed his pants", when he found out mosley took the fight... So they tried to add some bricks to his gloves to help KO a man that has never been KO'd, because he knew damn well he couldn't out box Mosley... I guess Margarito was no longer the most feared man in the Welterweight division once Sugar Shane returned... The only person with a higher KO percentage in the division is Cotto...

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                • Living Legend
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                  #178
                  Originally posted by raabd
                  You say if someone gets away with doing something illegal it's wrong and I agree, but you don't know if he did anything wrong yet. How can you even argue when the facts are not in yet? IF margarito is found guilty I will be the first to condemn him. At the end of the day you still don't know what happened.
                  I a sport like boxing there is no room for anything to fall out of your gloves besides some guaze or some tape...No matter how hard tape gets its still tape and the only way gauze is going to be that hard is if it was wrapped in tape, which is still illegal, no matter what they have something described as plaster, are they any substances in boxing that become plasterlike before, during or after a fight...?

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                  • dondi330
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by Zocalo
                    You know maybe there was/is a blind faith that everyone will follow the rules in place because they are there for the safety of the boxers.
                    Very good point.
                    Sometimes the most simple instinct is overlooked.

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                    • raabd
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Living Legend
                      I a sport like boxing there is no room for anything to fall out of your gloves besides some guaze or some tape...No matter how hard tape gets its still tape and the only way gauze is going to be that hard is if it was wrapped in tape, which is still illegal, no matter what they have something described as plaster, are they any substances in boxing that become plasterlike before, during or after a fight...?
                      This is what the margarito people claim. He used the same wraps that he would use during training. Yes gauze gets hard and stiff when it is filled with sweat and persperation. Throughout the course of a fight the gauze in a fighters glove will stiffen. Since SUPPOSSELY margarito has been using the same piece of gauze from training it becomes harder and stiffer over time and they used it to protect his knuckles on fight night. This is not illegal. Gauze goes on the skin followed by tape. For all we know this might have been the "plaster like" substance that richardson made a big deal out of. That is why the commission is investigating. Let's wait for the facts and see if he really cheated or not.

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