Manny Pacquiao vs BJ Penn at 150lbs...

[Fox McCloud]

Everyone is acting like Pacquiao would know what to do when Penn rushed him to take him to the ground.

I mean, don't you all think it takes some time and training to get used to someone trying to take you to the ground, or is it just one of those things Manny Pacquiao was born with?

Please use your heads people.

[diavoli]

Everyone is acting like Pacquiao would know what to do when Penn rushed him to take him to the ground.

I mean, don't you all think it takes some time and training to get used to someone trying to take you to the ground, or is it just one of those things Manny Pacquiao was born with?

Please use your heads people.

If Pac will be given a month to learn some MMA tricks... He kills BJ Penn easily

[Fox McCloud]

If Pac will be given a month to learn some MMA tricks... He kills BJ Penn easily

The equivalent to this (not well thought out) statement:

Give Penn a month to learn the Mayweather shoulder roll defense, and he dices Pacquiao up in boxing.

Dude, are you serious right now?

[badboypeenoy]

Everyone is acting like Pacquiao would know what to do when Penn rushed him to take him to the ground.

I mean, don't you all think it takes some time and training to get used to someone trying to take you to the ground, or is it just one of those things Manny Pacquiao was born with?

Please use your heads people.

How many head shots from Pacman do you think BJ Penn would receive before he can get Pacquiao on the ground? I think he gets at least two solid shots that would disorient him for a few seconds. Now, in that few seconds that Penn is disoriented, how many more shots do you think Pacman could land? and so on and so on... I don't think BJ Penn can get Pacquiao on the ground without getting hit solidly at least twice.

[Miburo]

Penn is a World Mundials BJJ champion (I believe the youngest in history, and in his rookie event). He isn't called the Prodigy for nothing. Even his boxing is very good by MMA standards, probably the best in the UFC. Penn by submission in the first.

[Fox McCloud]

How many head shots from Pacman do you think BJ Penn would receive before he can get Pacquiao on the ground? I think he gets at least two solid shots that would disorient him for a few seconds. Now, in that few seconds that Penn is disoriented, how many more shots do you think Pacman could land? and so on and so on... I don't think BJ Penn can get Pacquiao on the ground without getting hit solidly at least twice.

I can't imagine that Penn gets out of the match without getting hit, although, idk, I just really think Pacquiao would have trouble timing Penn, because he is not used to anything close to the movements Penn would use.

They are just two different games altogether.

That's why these threads are just silly. These guys are the best in the world at what they do. I don't know why people can't leave it at that... apparently they have to be the best in the world at what other people do as well.

Who is your avatar by the way? I used to think it was Pacquiao, but... it looks less and less like him every time I see it.

[badboypeenoy]

In a boxing ring, MMA rules, three 12 minute rounds with MMA gloves.

Remember Manny used to be a kickboxer.

Don't believe everything you hear from Stewart, just because he's from Asia doesn't mean he knows Muai Thai.

[Miburo]

How many head shots from Pacman do you think BJ Penn would receive before he can get Pacquiao on the ground? I think he gets at least two solid shots that would disorient him for a few seconds. Now, in that few seconds that Penn is disoriented, how many more shots do you think Pacman could land? and so on and so on... I don't think BJ Penn can get Pacquiao on the ground without getting hit solidly at least twice.

People tend to overlook a classic strategy vs. boxers in non-boxing events: use of the leg kick. Watch Ray Mercer in K-1, within minutes he became unable to move from the punishment his legs took. This could be used in the initial moments of a fight as a setup to get them focused on avoiding blows to the calf, allowing a crafty fighter to get an easy single-leg. For a fighter as good as Penn, I'd say 0-1 blows land (and if they do, at a bad angle as he would be low to the ground).

[badboypeenoy]

I can't imagine that Penn gets out of the match without getting hit, although, idk, I just really think Pacquiao would have trouble timing Penn, because he is not used to anything close to the movements Penn would use.

They are just two different games altogether.

That's why these threads are just silly. These guys are the best in the world at what they do. I don't know why people can't leave it at that... apparently they have to be the best in the world at what other people do as well.

Who is your avatar by the way? I used to think it was Pacquiao, but... it looks less and less like him every time I see it.

That's why I said Pacman gets submitted if Penn gets him on the ground, but I doubt if Penn has tasted anything close to Pacman's power, and doubt even more Penn's ability to NOT be hit, MMA fighters with lesser boxing skills was able to land solidly on Penn.

[badboypeenoy]

People tend to overlook a classic strategy vs. boxers in non-boxing events: use of the leg kick. Watch Ray Mercer in K-1, within minutes he became unable to move from the punishment his legs took. This could be used in the initial moments of a fight as a setup to get them focused on avoiding blows to the calf, allowing a crafty fighter to get an easy single-leg. For a fighter as good as Penn, I'd say 0-1 blows land (and if they do, at a bad angle as he would be low to the ground).

Mercer is slow, bad example.