Who is Hopkins's second best win?

[daggum]

Johnson's resume when he fought Hopkins was worse than Tye Fields'. I'd say Fields is pretty green if you're talking about world class opposition. Sam Garr? Holy cow, he'd fought 9 pro debuters and the one guy he actually fought with a winning record before facing Johnson, was 11-9-2 (against poor comp mind you.) Trust me, Johnson was green, and the proof is how much he's improved in the years since he fought Hopkins (even after the considerable losses after Bernard, yes some disputed.)

so was calzaghe's.

[daggum]

So let me get this straight. A green Glen Johnson, who had an inflated record full of stiffs is Hopkins' second best win, and Antwun Echols, who never won a title in his life, or beat anyone of note, who was bested by Mundine, knocks the hell out of Kelly Pavlik? Oh lord.

As for the thread, I think going up two weight classes, not taking any warm up fights, and beating the best guy in the division while a big underdog, is a better win than Pavlik.

yea the same echols calzaghe ducked not to mention echols beat 2 of calzaghe's opponents kabary salem and brewer before calzaghe chose to fight them. calzaghe was supposed to fight the echols-brewer winner and brewer got knocked out. what do you know he fights brewer!

[Brother Naazim]

yea the same echols calzaghe ducked not to mention echols beat 2 of calzaghe's opponents kabary salem and brewer before calzaghe chose to fight them. calzaghe was supposed to fight the echols-brewer winner and brewer got knocked out. what do you know he fights brewer!

Daggum is the greatest of all time. He comes with the fact about Joe, no matter what you ask him. I love it.

As to Hopkins best win, I say Tarver. Skipping 2 weight classes and challenging the top guy at 41 years of age is nice on paper. It's even nicer when you see how easily Hopkins handled him.

[tommy boo boxer]

CALZAGHE!!!

[Bea5T]

pavlik.....he was 43

[Fox McCloud]

Trinidad is still the only man to stop him in 5 rounds. Even Bute couldn't do that when he was shot as hell and at 168. Joppy is pretty good and was a top middleweight. It raises his stock because it proves Trinidad's worth as a legit middleweight

100% correct on why I put that part in.

[Fox McCloud]

yes we all know that but it says only serious contenders. no one takes calzaghe seriously nor is he a contender for anything other than circus clown.

Oh my god... every time I think you can't get any funnier, you shove my words down my throat.

[Fox McCloud]

Tito, Johnson, Tarver, Pavlik, Wright, Echols

One thing though...Echols would K.T.F.O Pavlik at 160

Wow, was Echols really that good? I don't know too much about him... I've just seen him fight Hopkins twice.

I really should have just limited the poll down to Johnson, Wright, Tarver and Pavlik I think... the rest really aren't in their league accomplishment or ability wise.

[Fox McCloud]

so was calzaghe's.

yea the same echols calzaghe ducked not to mention echols beat 2 of calzaghe's opponents kabary salem and brewer before calzaghe chose to fight them. calzaghe was supposed to fight the echols-brewer winner and brewer got knocked out. what do you know he fights brewer!

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Daggum is the greatest of all time. He comes with the fact about Joe, no matter what you ask him. I love it.

As to Hopkins best win, I say Tarver. Skipping 2 weight classes and challenging the top guy at 41 years of age is nice on paper. It's even nicer when you see how easily Hopkins handled him.

The best part is that it's **** I didn't know. Like Echols beat 3 of Calzaghe's opponents before he fought them, and was supposed to get a shot at Calzaghe after beating Brewer. I didn't know any of that.

[Silencers]

I'd highly recommend watching the Echols-Brewer fight, that was a great 3 round fight.