Pacquaio Is the TOP DOG in the sport... HE DESERVES 60-40. PBFvs.Hatton PBF got 70-30

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    #31
    Originally posted by Horus
    Great Arguments For Pacquaio.!!!

    This match-up is the best thing to do right now for both fighters from a financial and career standpoint.
    Pacquaio Made the Smartest Business Moved He could.

    Pacquiao has earned the distinction of being the top dog in boxing at the moment and he deserves to be treated as such. Whether he actually gets the 60% he is asking for though is beyond me, but you really can’t blame a guy for playing the game smart- a game that also played him when he was nobody and was trying to come up. So IMO he deserves to ask for more. He earned it! It’s part of the game and now that he’s the top dog, he’s just playing the game smart.

    Arum keeps telling us that Ricky got all the U.K. ppv sales but conveniently omits that Mayweather did the same for U.S. ppv sales.

    Do you really think that Mayweather will allow Hatton to have a share in U.S. ppv if he doesn't get any in U.K.???

    This is the same Mayweather who sat out 7 months because he thought a HBO contract seven-fight contract, worth $12 million was "slave wages compared to what Naseem Hamed was making.”


    FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. RICKY HATTON was a 70-30 Split For Mayweather.
    DATE: 12/8/07
    LOCATION:MGM
    PROMOTIONS: Golden Boy, and Mayweather Pomotions
    PAID ATTENDANCE: 15,488
    GROSS SALES:$ 10,393,950.00
    • Mayweather was guaranteed $11 million
    • Hatton was guaranteed $6 million


    2. Hatton receives all the 1.25 million sale in U.K. pay per view at 20 euros a pop or $30 U.S.
    So that's about $37.5 million U.S. dollars.

    3. Mayweather receives all the U.S. pay per view revenue. According to Mark Taffet, U.S. ppv generated $47 million. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3158134

    Let's calculate, I don't know what the cable company split, promoter split, etc....on ppv sales.... so let's just add the total ppv revenues with the guaranteed money for both fighters.

    Mayweather: 11 million + 47 million = $58 million

    Hatton: 6 million + 37.5 million = $43.5 million




    Schaeffer's argument. if Hatton was so big in England....how come his ppv buys against Malignagi was just 200,000. Again at $30 a pop.
    he said that Hatton can pull in the U.K. ppv share....which is true if he's fighting a known opponent......Hatton went down from 1.25 million in U.K. pay per view sales against Mayweather to 200,000 against Malignagi. Manny generated 250,000 against Diaz. So clearly, Hatton needs a big name more than Manny

    Manny Pacquiao PPV History

    1. De La Hoya - 1.25 million buys
    2. Morales 1 - 350,000 buys
    3. Morales 2 - 360,000 buys
    4. Morales 3 - 350,000 buys
    5. Barrera 2 - 350,000 buys
    6. Marquez 2 - 400,000 buys
    7. Diaz - 200,000 buys

    Ricky Hatton P.P.V History
    1. Floyd Mayweather- 850,000 p.p.v (U.S) 1.25 Million P.P.V (U.K)
    2. Paulie Malignagi - 200,000 p.p.v (u.k)


    Hatton vs Malignagi: 200,000 in U.K. for $30
    Pacquiao vs Diaz: 250,000 in U.S. for $50




    One reason why Manny wants 60/40 is because they're afraid Ricky can't carry the load. All Ricky will be doing is riding on Manny's back,
    The last thing The American Pay Per View Audience Remember about Ricky Hatton is him getting Knock into a ring post by Mayweather.
    So Ricky Hatton lucky to get 50% of the purse for doing nothing.

    Manny built his empire in the US. He built it by beating Mexican and Mexican America boxers in Las Vegas,

    Ricky built his empire in the UK. He basically stayed home and beat other boxers in his own turf.
    • How many ppv does Ricky have? 1 with Floyd?
    • How many ppv does Manny have? 8
    • How many fights did Ricky have in Las Vegas? 4
    • How many fights did Mnny have in Las Vegas? 8
    • How many fights did Ricky have in the US? 8
    • How many fights did Manny have in the US? 16
    • So who owns Las Vegas? Manny
    • So who owns the US ppv? Manny
    • So who is carrying the load in this fight? Manny


    And Manny only gets 50%, but he is the p4p champion?



    I am sorry but that is bull****.
    Manny Pacquaio has ever right to take the lionshare of this fight.

    HE IS THE TOP DOG OF THE SPORT.!!
    i swear... you dont post much, its like you hold it all in for one HUGE offering everytime

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      #32
      Originally posted by Left Hook Tua
      shorter responses , horus.



      from my understanding ricky got a share of u.s. ppv and mayweather had none of the u.k. ppv.

      i'm su****ious of your numbers too. the numbers i've read was 2.25 million buys with only about 800k coming out of the u.s.
      Do you really think that Mayweather will allow Hatton to have a share in U.S. ppv if he doesn't get any in U.K.???

      This is the same Mayweather who sat out 7 months because he thought a HBO contract seven-fight contract, worth $12 million was "slave wages compared to what Naseem Hamed was making.”

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        #33
        Originally posted by jreckoning
        DID YOU MISS THOSE 11,000 people yelling their heads off and singing all damn night long.
        Those weren't Pac fans. those were Hatton's freaks.
        How can you say that? Didn't you watch Mayweather-Hatton?
        You're telling me in a mega fight Pac brings in more people....?

        Huh?
        Floyd may not bring in more than Pac, but Hatton sure as hell does.
        floyd is more mainstream than pac and the hatton fight was in the u.s. but most of the arena was brits.

        that says it all.

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          #34
          point #6...


          HATTON AND PACMAN MADE A VERBAL AGREEMENT AT 50/50.

          Pacman changes his mind. Pacman has no honour.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Horus
            Do you really think that Mayweather will allow Hatton to have a share in U.S. ppv if he doesn't get any in U.K.???

            This is the same Mayweather who sat out 7 months because he thought a HBO contract seven-fight contract, worth $12 million was "slave wages compared to what Naseem Hamed was making.”
            yes i do. maybe floyd thought the u.k. revenues wouldn't be that much. hatton never sold 1.4 million ppv in the u.k. before. maybe he thought the higher percentage of the u.s. money would be more. who knows?

            mayweather's promoter is not very smart after all.

            he's self promoted isn't he?

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              #36
              Originally posted by Horus
              I address that point.

              Arum keeps telling us that Ricky got all the U.K. ppv sales but conveniently omits that Mayweather did the same for U.S. ppv sales.

              Do you really think that Mayweather will allow Hatton to have a share in U.S. ppv if he doesn't get any in U.K.???


              This is the same Mayweather who sat out 7 months because he thought a HBO contract seven-fight contract, worth $12 million was "slave wages compared to what Naseem Hamed was making.”


              FLOYD MAYWEATHER JR vs. RICKY HATTON was a 70-30 Split For Mayweather.
              DATE: 12/8/07
              LOCATION:MGM
              PROMOTIONS: Golden Boy, and Mayweather Pomotions
              PAID ATTENDANCE: 15,488
              GROSS SALES:$ 10,393,950.00

              * Mayweather was guaranteed $11 million
              * Hatton was guaranteed $6 million


              2. Hatton receives all the 1.25 million sale in U.K. pay per view at 20 euros a pop or $30 U.S.
              So that's about $37.5 million U.S. dollars.

              3. Mayweather receives all the U.S. pay per view revenue. According to Mark Taffet, U.S. ppv generated $47 million. http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/boxing ... id=3158134

              Let's calculate, I don't know what the cable company split, promoter split, etc....on ppv sales.... so let's just add the total ppv revenues with the guaranteed money for both fighters.

              Mayweather: 11 million + 47 million = $58 million

              Hatton: 6 million + 37.5 million = $43.5 million
              Where you getting these figures from? I reckon you're guessing right?

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                #37
                Originally posted by jreckoning
                DID YOU MISS THOSE 11,000 people yelling their heads off and singing all damn night long.
                Those weren't Pac fans. those were Hatton's freaks.
                How can you say that? Didn't you watch Mayweather-Hatton?
                You're telling me in a mega fight Pac brings in more people....?

                Huh?
                Floyd may not bring in more than Pac, but Hatton sure as hell does.
                I am telling you that in a Mega Fight.
                Pacquaio brings more fans than Mayweather did to the Fight. (Livegate wise)

                and Mayweather got a 70-30 split.
                so why cant Manny get a 60-40 split when he brings more fans then Mayweather does. (livegate wise)

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by jreckoning
                  How does this surprise anyone that people care more about money than a dream?
                  It's always the case. Throw about pride, dreams, legacy, all those meaningless words, and what is left, how much am I gonna get paid?

                  People say all kinds of ****, but in the end none of that matters.
                  The only people that fight for squat aren't rich yet.

                  Do people at jobs get paid what their worth? Not always.
                  The best worker doesn't always get the most money.
                  That's true, Money is the biggest motivator in this Sport. A PRO boxer's job is to fight, and he doesn't expect to do it pro bono. But to be really frank about it, it's not all about the Money especially at this level where legacy comes into the picture. Yeah it takes a big slice of concern in any boxer's mind, but I feel that anyone saying that's all it is about -- the CASH -- and nothing much else is being ignorant and delusional, sorry to say, especially when the two people negotiating for the fight are already set up for life. Sometimes, there are more important things than getting 5% less, and Ricky between the two of them must realize this.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by mickeyb
                    Where you getting these figures from? I reckon you're guessing right?
                    Nevada State Athletic Commission.
                    Sky Sports.
                    Espn.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Horus
                      I am telling you that in a Mega Fight.
                      Pacquaio brings more fans than Mayweather did to the Fight. (Livegate wise)

                      and Mayweather got a 70-30 split.
                      so why cant Manny get a 60-40 split when he brings more fans then Mayweather does. (livegate wise)


                      But I am arguing for your boy but in a different way. Mayweather made double the ppvs than Pac did fighting the same guy.
                      Mayweather doesn't bring in more livegate fans than Pac, but Hatton does.
                      Add Hatton's live fans plus all those uk fans and that's serious money. Pac can't accomplish the same financially even though he has a whole country backing him...

                      Mayweather's deal would always be better than Pac's. And since there is no way in hell Pac-Hatton does better than Mayweather-Hatton, Hatton has a better position to bargain.

                      In a perfect world Pac should possibly get more, but in this world, 60-40 would be a terrible deal for Hatton based on what he's made through his career.
                      Last edited by Guest; 01-21-2009, 09:52 PM.

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