Wake! Ivan Calderon is #1 P4P

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  • Burner
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    #31
    Originally posted by 2501
    p4p, skillwise, physically, mentally, he is better than Floyd Mayweather Jr.

    There I said it.
    Oh lord....No on eion the planet can do what Floyd can.

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    • !! Shawn
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      #32
      Originally posted by Jim Jeffries
      Well Calderon is getting up in years. But, Gonzales has fought one guy that wasn't a complete stiff, so I'd say he's a small Valero at this point. No telling how good he really is.
      He definitely is getting up in years. 34 for his weight is absolutely ancient, but the guy hasn't show any signs of slowing down.

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      • KILLA RIGHT
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        #33
        He's top 12 imo i cant put him at 1 i just don't think theirs enough fighters he can beat that are good enough to put him at 1

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        • !! Shawn
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          #34
          Originally posted by warp1432
          He can hit him. Gonzalez is tall, great head movement, powerful, and very fast.



          A complete stiff? As in he was part of one? Yukita Niida, other then Joe Calzaghe, was the longest running titlist. He was good. He was the top dog at 105 besides Calderon. He beat a lot of the same competition that Calderon did and he also beat some of them easier (Ronald Barrera).

          He also beat some other contenders at 105 before hand and was ranked.
          I will continue to believe that nobody can hit Calderon until I see it happen.

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            #35
            Originally posted by !! Shawn
            Its definitely an accomplishment worth writing home about. Seriously though, the size difference between those two makes the Pacquiao - De La Hoya matchup seem like it was against two evenly sized fighters.
            In Cazares defense, its hard to knock a scared man out.

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              #36
              Originally posted by !! Shawn
              I will continue to believe that nobody can hit Calderon until I see it happen.

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              • warp1432
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                #37
                Originally posted by !! Shawn
                I will continue to believe that nobody can hit Calderon until I see it happen.
                Fair enough, but I really hope the fight happens sometime in 2009. I doubt it will, but Roman Gonzalez is legit imo.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Bhopreign
                  Great. It took him 8 rounds and how many punches? And what did he get out of it? Oh... thats right, absolutely nothing. He got a big fat L on his record.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    In Cazares defense, its hard to knock a scared man out.
                    In Cazares defense, its hard to hit what your eyes cant see.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by mabuhay
                      i've never heard of this bum calderon..
                      is he even on the official p4p list..

                      dream on OP.. has even fought a PPV fight..
                      what u call BUM is a ring magazine top 10 p4p u idiot.

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